Darin Toonder: Grand Theft Floral & Primetime Television (Interview)

How do you transition from dominating local recreation leagues to navigating a post-apocalyptic political thriller or avoiding the Ozark cartels? You ask Darin Toonder.

This week on Entertain This!, we sit down with an incredibly versatile actor whose face you’ve undoubtedly seen on some of the biggest shows on television. We dive deep into his stacked resume, discussing what it’s like to bounce from the comedic perfection of Parks and Rec and Modern Family to the gritty tension of Ozark, his role as Agent Melvin Rainey in Hulu's Paradise, and his latest turn in the wild new supernatural horror movie, Obsession.

But acting is only half the story.

Before he was sharing scenes with Hollywood’s elite, Darin was building a legacy in a much more cutthroat arena: adult league softball. We also get a legendary tale on his rose-stealing abilities (yes, you read that right).

Grab your sunflower seeds and a cold drink—it’s time to talk shop, sports, and petty floral theft.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:23

Go ahead and hit that record button to stop. Yeah, no. Now we're recording.

SPEAKER_02 0:26

Now we're doing a show. We'll edit in the music later. But hey, welcome to Entertain This. It's a podcast about movies, TV shows, and video games. My name is Tom. With me, I have Rich and our friend from Allentown, Pennsylvania. We have Darren Tounder joining us today. What you don't hear.

SPEAKER_03 0:43

Good with you guys.

SPEAKER_02 0:44

Good to be with you guys. I know. Let's talk. We just didn't spend an hour and a half talking about.

SPEAKER_03 0:49

Did you get anything to say? We've been talking for an hour and 15 minutes, man.

SPEAKER_02 0:53

We have. We've been getting to know.

SPEAKER_03 0:54

Are we recording?

SPEAKER_02 0:56

It's like, no. We start our side segment just called Shooting the Breeze with our buddy Darren. Now, for those of you who don't know who Darren Toonar is, you can find him in things like Paradise, General Hospital, Ozark, Sheeh, Kobsetion Parks, and Rec, I'm told, and he's a nine-time softball champion.

SPEAKER_04 1:19

And I guess which I like the most. I like the fact that I've won nine times. Feels good to have that much gold on my resume.

SPEAKER_02 1:27

Nine time champion. Like I've acted at things, but you see these trophies. Now, Darren, as we've uh obviously our audience listening, they don't know that you know what we've talked about in the last hour and a half, and they probably shouldn't. But we're gonna dive into your acting career and how you all got started. And like just what made you pursue acting?

SPEAKER_04 1:52

I I tell you, it was it was uh growing up, I used to come home for lunch during grade school. This is like in the 80s, where they they would let if you were fourth, fifth, and sixth grade, they would actually let these you uh go home walk like by yourself to go have lunch at home. No adults, which I think they would never do now. You know what I mean? They're not letting a 10-year-old just walk five blocks at home by himself. But I would, I would, I wouldn't walk home, I would run home because uh if I got there in time, I could catch right when I Love Lucy started. And then right after I Love Lucy was the Kirby Net show with Tim Conway. And I loved watching that with my mom. And we would we had a tough time growing up and there was you know there were difficulties. But in that like hour that I'd come home for lunch and watch that, man, the joy that was in that room and was experienced, that was kind of and it looked like just Tim Conway and Lucy were just having a time of their lives, you know. I was like, that looks like fun. And so that's the first thing that made me interested in it. And then um, and then also another thing is uh uh uh again with my mom, uh there was a show called Moonlighting. Do you guys know what Moonlighting was?

SPEAKER_02 3:06

Yeah, Bruce Willis and uh civil shape.

SPEAKER_04 3:08

Yeah, that's the thing that put, you know, well, Die Hard put Bruce Willis, made him a star, but Moonlighting is what got him um some some some traction to be able to get to uh uh Die Hard. But I kept hearing about this show and uh I convinced my mom because I had to go to bed at nine o'clock. Uh when I was in fifth grade or sixth grade, I think that's when it came out. And I couldn't recording in progress. Sorry.

SPEAKER_03 3:33

Why are we just starting now?

SPEAKER_02 3:35

No, he's for the uh visual. He's trying we're trying something.

SPEAKER_04 3:41

I made it, she let me stay up. We we we watched that show and she liked it so much that's the one night she let me stay up till 10 during on a school night to watch Moonlighting, and that was like again, it looked like he was having a time of his life. And uh and then my grandmother uh just really believed in me and she pushed me and she's like, I think you should you should pursue that. And uh and and I adore her. And so when she kind of gave me that blessing, or or should maybe I should have said that palotation. Yeah, that's what I'm gonna do. And um yeah, when it it it it happened real quick, you know, went to Chicago, uh, and then right after that I was doing a show at Sepanel, it's a really big show theater and uh good man in the checkmole. Chicago and the pilot happened right after that, and and then my agent in Chicago was like, you just need to go out to LA now because you're hot. And uh that's how it all kind of happened fast. I've just been out here for 20 years, and I've been fortunate enough to have shot a little over 70 episodes of television. So I've been very, very fortunate. Very, very fortunate. And the food's great too.

SPEAKER_02 4:56

I really I did it for the food.

SPEAKER_03 5:00

Well, you should see the spreads on some of these TV shows. It's fantastic.

SPEAKER_02 5:05

That's a pilot right there. A guy who who just loves food and becomes an actor just so he can eat like all like the fancy stuff they bring out to sets. He's like, I'm just telling you, it's like it's just not like you're not gonna get it at a restaurant, you gotta be an actor.

SPEAKER_03 5:17

I'm telling you, there was this one show, it was uh um uh Gary Unmarried, and there was a shrimp mountain. It was a mountain of shrimp, and each there was like three sides of the mountain, and each side was a different kind of shrimp, like teriyaki shrimp, coconut shrimp, barbecue shrimp.

SPEAKER_04 5:34

It was, and I was like, I had never seen anything like that, just a mountain of shrimp.

SPEAKER_02 5:39

I didn't know shrimp could be presented in a mountain format.

SPEAKER_04 5:42

It it was presented is a mountain, it was mount shrimp. It was it was, and I was I let me tell you something, I went on every side of the mountain.

SPEAKER_02 5:52

You're just like looking up like a climber like at base camp. It's just like, oh yeah, I'm getting to the top of this bad boy.

SPEAKER_01 5:58

Well, yeah, because we've been on a couple of sets, and like you know, we have our own staff dining at work, but you know, we go from eating burnt eggs to on you know, doing security for this, and it's like, oh, you have like homemade fillet filet mignon steaks and scram, you know, scrambled omel omelets and all sorts of stuff. Uh must be nice.

SPEAKER_04 6:16

Well the fact that I you can a lot of times you know you can choose from chicken, fish, and beef, and you know, if you just sit there going and say, uh around the world, please. They'll give you all free. You know, and it's it's although that's the other thing. Sometimes depending on what I'm doing that day, I I when it's lunch. Do you guys ever get the the um lunch coma or food coma after lunch? Yep. I just need anything to shoot it trying to shoot a T and trying to shoot a scene when you're just tough. And so sometimes I go light and I pack that thing away. And you know, there was this um I was shooting this movie devotion, and it was going great. And but then they were gonna they were shooting the the lead coverage, and then they were gonna turn around you know set up and shoot me. But there's this rain coming. And they're like, all right, we got a break for lunch, and this is gonna be like a two and a half hour break. And um, so you know, enjoy your lunch while you can't. It's gonna be a pretty big storm. And we were shooting out in Savannah after that. We were talking about Savannah yellow. You said you really love Savannah. Um, and this spread was phenomenal. It was like like last supper kind of quality spread. It was just, and it went for miles and miles. And I'm like, well, if I got two and a half hours, because usually I really like before lunch to avoid the food coma. And I went, give me the fish, give me the chicken, give me the steak, give me the pot. I went, I just loaded it up, like loaded up with the intention of getting food coma and taking a nap because I had to get up at like four in the morning to get there at five in the morning, right? And uh, and I loaded up and even like ate three cookies, and I went to my trailer to go pass out and just you know that moment when you're sleeping where you're just right there, it's just about to pass out, right when I was about to pass out. Darren, we're ready for you. I'm like, what? And they were two and a half hours, and like, no, the storm just went. And so I'm like, the whole time shooting. I was so and I was like yelling at God.

SPEAKER_00 8:30

Why?

SPEAKER_04 8:30

This is like my first big, huge, like Sony motion picture. And I'm like, I can't believe I've fucking mistake. Fucking mistake.

SPEAKER_03 8:39

It's like that Seinfeld episode where George is driving and the pigeons. He's like, we have a deal. You're supposed to move. It took me two and a half hours.

SPEAKER_04 8:49

So yes, it it the spreads are pretty fantastic.

SPEAKER_02 8:53

You just need to start a side podcast called Film and Foods.

SPEAKER_01 8:58

Tom has a lot of good ideas.

SPEAKER_02 8:59

He just doesn't implement any of that. I wrote that down, though. That's the that's further than I've gone with most of my ideas. I actually wrote that. I'm just an idea guy. That's all I I don't execute them. I just I don't give a.

SPEAKER_04 9:12

You just like the spitball. You go the spaghetti's against the wall, you pick what you want to eat off this wall.

SPEAKER_00 9:17

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:17

The problem is when I come up with great ideas, it's not spaghetti on the wall, it's throwing darts at a wall. It's just like it's like, man, it's so much to do that as I leave.

SPEAKER_01 9:26

Yeah, you and Haven both talk about all these great ideas, and then you want me to figure out how to implement them. And I'm like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 9:31

Food and films. Food and films, Mitch. That's our new show. Okay. We're gonna have actors on, we're gonna have Darren on, we're gonna talk about food, we're gonna eat some pasta, we're gonna eat some shrimp frog Diablo, and we're gonna talk about goodfellas. That's what we're gonna do. That's our new show.

SPEAKER_01 9:45

Sure, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:46

Heck with this other four this other show we do that we've been doing for five years. This is what's gonna sell.

SPEAKER_04 9:52

Spin off. Maybe it's a side project. You leave uh wait, who's the partner?

SPEAKER_03 9:57

Hayden. Who's the partner with you?

SPEAKER_02 9:59

Yeah, Hayden. Oh, Hayden. It's not even a side project, it's a side dish. Side dish, but now you talk about a caribon shirt, you mentioned Tim Conway. I'm guessing you have a favorite Tim Conway skit.

SPEAKER_04 10:15

Oh, I mean the dentist. Come on. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 10:18

I was about to say mine was gonna be the dentist as well. I don't know if you ever saw that one with the Nova Cane and then the gnat and the or the fly. And I think Harvey Corman is he's sitting in the chair. I think he actually pissed himself. He was laughing so much.

SPEAKER_04 10:29

Yeah, oh, or or anytime he anytime he did that old man, you know the old man that he would just slow shuffle. And I think there was one scene where Harvey was um he was stuck in a in a in a in a burning building, and the old Tim Conway character came in to say shuffling around and just not doing anything. And Harvey, God bless him, was just losing his just losing it the entire time. But there was another one I really liked that one of the bits that Tim Conway did that I thought was real funny too, is when um he got smacked, I think. I remember I think it was Tim Conway. He got smacked and he fell up the stairs.

SPEAKER_03 11:15

And he fell up the stairs, and I was like, This is a genius! And there was another one where he fell down the stairs, but he did it in slow motion. I don't know if you see that one too.

SPEAKER_04 11:23

Have you seen that one at all? I mean, that guy was just a genius. But like watching him and watching Jen John Ritter on three's company. I mean, just these people who have and that's the other thing is like these physical comedians, and I don't think anybody's really doing that right now. You know, uh after Kramer, you know, is there anybody doing any really any physical comedy?

SPEAKER_01 11:48

You know, I mean I can't think of anybody off the top of my head.

SPEAKER_04 11:51

Like how John Ritter did or how Lucy did. The only thing I can the only person I can think of, and I did I did an episode of Modern Family, was the guy Ty Burrell, the guy who plays Phil. Like he would do some physical comedy. And I when I worked with him a lot, I was like, hey man, there's someone who's a big John Ritter fan, Lucy Fanny, Conway fan. I mean, you know, you're doing that. And he was even like, he's like, you know, as an athlete, that's my uh uh a way of still being able to be physical, you know. And but I don't see really anybody doing any physical comedy like that nowadays.

SPEAKER_01 12:26

I mean, it's been a while, but like the only one I can think of close would maybe be like uh Kevin James when he was on King of Queens, he would do some stuff that was kind of you know off the wall, kind of bouncing around and dancing.

SPEAKER_03 12:40

But wasn't that still back with like flip phones and everything? Yeah, it was like it's not recent, but then we're back pulling out of the US.

SPEAKER_02 12:49

That would be I I think that should be uh what you're doing.

SPEAKER_04 12:53

I'm dude, I'm trying. I'm trying, man. I was doing this thing where all it said was like I was doing this scene where uh it just said he uh checks his wife's phone because he thinks his wife's cheating, right? And that's all it said on the script. And I did this whole routine where I was trying to get the phone, like leaning over, trying to get a phone, and I ate it off the bed, and then I slowly kind of popped my head up to see if I walked up and I reached around and grabbed, and then I did like an army crawl around and was trying to look for it, and then it was like it was one of those things where uh I realized you know I couldn't figure out her password. So I walked up and put the you know, the phone over her face to get it, and then I looked at her, and you know how like they put mirrors under people's nose to see if they're breathing at a moment where I checked just to make sure she was still alive? And then I finally got her thing. You know, it was just this finding this whole bit in the uh the people were just howling, howling. And the the guy who uh you know wrote the scene, he was like, you know, the fact that you created this whole you know six-minute bit off just the line that said he just checked the phone. You know, that's from all like watching like Sean Ritter Lucy. Like, how can we play in this um how can we find the physical because that's what it is, is just playing it, you know? Uh because I as I tell my uh tell my kids that I work with uh you know, you you make people laugh with words, you make them howl with uh with what you do, you know what I mean. And that's why I say like when when you watch I love Lucy, what's when you when you laughing most at what she says or when she's getting into her physical hygiene? They're like, oh, when she's doing the physical hygiene. I'm like, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 14:42

Well, that's like I don't act, but my son and my daughter, they you know, in the mornings where I used to work, I had time in a little bit as they were leaving, going to school. I would I would see them and tell them bye. And there was one morning, I think it was my daughter that was having she was just having a bad morning, she was kind of crying. And so just to try and make her laugh a little bit, I I grew up watching the three studios to that like kind of slapstick. So now I have to do this all the time, but she was like, uh I acted like she had locked me out of the garage door, and so every time I wanted to do it, I like it's like I hit my head and I would stumble and like trip over stuff in the garage, and she would just die laughing. And now I have to do that just about every time.

SPEAKER_03 15:18

It's like terrible with the bit you pull with your kids because then you keep hearing the word you don't ever want to hear again, is when they go, again!

SPEAKER_00 15:27

What if I do?

SPEAKER_01 15:30

There's a couple of times I've told my wives like, drive out of the driveway faster.

SPEAKER_02 15:35

You we're they're late now.

SPEAKER_01 15:36

They're late at this point. Get them to school. But yeah, I like I grew up with three stooges and just like the slapstick comedy I always enjoyed.

SPEAKER_04 15:45

Oh, so much fun. It's so much fun. It it it in and that's just but uh now I'm just laughing because I'm thinking of all the times like I like mess, I like you know, mess around with kids, right? Uh um I don't have any, but man, uh, you know, I work kids and then I have kids. But uh um, but just that's the thing I after I do a bit, and as you know, they scream again, again, again, and you're like my fans down.

SPEAKER_02 16:12

You send out like a pack of ice against your knee, just like again. Oh god. Exactly. We didn't get it on that take. We did we did uh all right, and the director's like, yeah, again.

SPEAKER_03 16:25

I didn't know this was a multiple performance evening. Like, you want one and done, one and done. Not one. Yeah. But uh uh, would do you do any bits for your kids too, or not they're not at the age where they can appreciate your comedy or they don't appreciate your comedy.

SPEAKER_02 16:42

Sort of hide-and-seek thing he thinks is hilarious. Um I'll like creep up, like he'll see me, and like I'll like you know, hide behind my wife. You know, she's sitting there feeding him, and then I'll like pop up over her shoulder. And he's like, I mean, he he's getting good at guessing where I'm gonna pop up next. Like he's getting really good at it. So I'm having to like fake him out, like I'll give him a double, and then I gotta go one way, and then I gotta do it again, and just to try to catch him. And he's like, is if I get him, he's like, Oh, he's like, you're over there. It's like, haha, well played. He gets like all excited about it.

SPEAKER_04 17:13

You should take him on the what is that training course where they I don't know if it actually really happens, but you know that training course where where police officers do the thing with the gun and then do the thing with the gun and the uh and they have the thing pop out and it's either a perpetrator or a civilian.

SPEAKER_03 17:27

Never really happens.

SPEAKER_04 17:29

No, no.

SPEAKER_03 17:30

No, who's even lying to me?

SPEAKER_02 17:33

Glenn East would lie to you.

SPEAKER_01 17:35

Magnum Force isn't really like Will Smith and Men in Black, and you choose the kid. Yeah, she was the only one little you know, strange here. All these mobs are out here working out, and just little Cindy Lou Who over here walking around with textbooks.

SPEAKER_02 17:45

Yeah, quantum physics, that's way too advanced for her.

SPEAKER_03 17:49

What's the good one?

SPEAKER_02 17:56

I'm trying to teach him proper life skills. Oh, yeah. So far, so far we're doing good. Uh I have no idea. He hasn't we he we're not at the words section yet. So hopefully his first words aren't just profanity from having sat behind me in a car in traffic. It's like I'm gonna use the words my dad told me when I was three months old.

SPEAKER_04 18:29

Let me ask you this. Did your dad have like, because I think you know, we're we're men, we can admit, we can be oblivious, right? And and I I I couldn't believe when my dad, when he heard me curse, he's like, who taught you that language? Oh like I've been on the golf course with you, man. Like I've heard it.

SPEAKER_03 18:49

Who do you think it was you? But I didn't have the nerve to ask and tell him. I was like, well, maybe that was you.

SPEAKER_02 18:56

Like, you know? Like uh well, you need like the diary, it's just like, all right, you know, December 8th, 1997. You were doing this.

SPEAKER_03 19:05

I'm gonna pull up the receipts.

SPEAKER_02 19:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:07

Here.

SPEAKER_02 19:07

I just jumped them all down.

SPEAKER_04 19:08

But at the same time, the b obliviousness of how do you not know that you were the one who taught me those words.

SPEAKER_02 19:15

See, my mom thought she's a good example. My mom thought she was clever. She would swear in like Italian. And I mean, you know, when the words come out. And me and my brother mom said the F-word in Italian, and she's like, How do you know the F-word? And she's like, Oh yeah. Because she either she said it like under her breath, and we heard her, because you know, when you're a kid, you're not supposed to hear something, you hear it. Or my dad, and it was one time it was like the first time I ever heard him use MF that I recall, and that's when he sliced his finger open with a razor blade while she rocking my brother's room, you know, fingernailed a knuckle. Oh, straight to the bone, all the way. And you just hear it clank, you know, the razor hits the ground, you hear motherfuckers you know, dolphin noises. And me and my brother, like, ooh, it's like I didn't know you could use it that way. It's like achievement unlocked. Like, you know, the skill tree expanded for our profanity.

SPEAKER_04 20:11

My mom would never curse, but she would do these like 1950s, like June Cleaver exclamations where something would happen, and she'd just go, Oh, golly, keepers criminally, or just something like that. Like my mom could my mom could fart like with the best. It's a good thing that we weren't on a fart fault fault line, a fart line, a fault line in Indianapolis, because she could rip them. And when she would ever do that, I mean, I'm talking like rip them. Uh, like a you know, some lions roar. I was the best holes on the thing were just I couldn't lie, I couldn't. She would block out the sound of the TV, they would be so loud and so long, and then she'd just be lying on the floor and she'd just rip it, and then she'd just go, Oh, like you know your grandmother has the same problem.

SPEAKER_02 21:07

And then it just shows like his younger sibling walk by, you know, in like, you know, in the line of fire and just go and just drop out.

SPEAKER_03 21:16

Well, you never did you had brothers, right? You had siblings. You had the you did the fart game, right?

SPEAKER_01 21:22

I always do it. I'll do it with my son. He'll be sitting there and I I'll just I'll let one rip and he'll just look at me and goes, you booted. And I'll be like, no, sir, that was you. And he goes, nah. I was like, oh well, it's my word against yours.

SPEAKER_02 21:39

My son, he used to when he was, you know, like within the first like two months when he was born, he would fart and it would scare him and he'd cry. And he, you know, he'd be like, and then he was asleep, and like we got him down for his nap, and he ripped like an adult. My wife looked at me like I did it, and I was like, That was him. And he just went, and he used to and he went.

SPEAKER_00 22:00

Woo!

SPEAKER_02 22:01

He's like asleep, woo! And then after that, he never had a problem letting it rip.

SPEAKER_04 22:10

Well, I could say as as the age I'm mad at, I still think they're funny. Yeah, they are still funny. But I'll tell you, never encourage, never encourage a person with irritable bowel syndrome to fart. Because I was dating this girl and I'd we'd I'd fart, we'd laugh, but she couldn't fart because she had just horrible bowel trouble or whatever. And then one evening she just she was sitting on the couch, and all of a sudden I just heard this.

SPEAKER_03 22:41

Just like, what the hell sad was that? Because you're not farting that funny. Like you farting, I did it.

SPEAKER_04 22:49

It was the worst thing I've ever smelled in my life. All it was was just and that was it.

SPEAKER_03 22:57

It was the worst thing I'd ever. I was like, you are not allowed to do that ever again.

SPEAKER_02 23:02

Fart privileges revoked.

SPEAKER_03 23:05

Revoked, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 23:06

I mean, for those of you who tuned in for a podcast about farting, uh, here we go. I got one more fart story and then we'll move on. Mr. Tudor's career. But uh, this is our house in New York, and it was a small, it was like a 10 by 13 room, you know, a little ranch house on my own. And I am just ripped like a straight out. I don't know what we ate, but I'm just farted up. And I'm just like going nuts, doors closed, I'm hoping, you know, I can I can't smell anything. My dad opens the door, and like you can see the air shift. And I realized it was and he just takes one step and goes, hey Tommy.

SPEAKER_03 23:54

And it's the second time he yelled Mother F.

SPEAKER_02 24:01

Pretty much. Yeah. Now let's segue back to your career television shows. Now you've been on a lot of television shows, as I as IMDB has been kind enough to inform me of. One of them you did get you did a Parks and Rec. Yeah. How was it being on Parks and Rec. It's one of my personal favorite shows.

SPEAKER_04 24:25

I tell you, I was only did one day on there, and everyone was just super nice. But you know, that was one of those shows where I wasn't I had never I hadn't watched it. And I hadn't become a fan yet. And then it was funny, I I did that show, and then I watched that episode, and I was like, oh, that's actually a pretty funny show.

SPEAKER_02 24:50

What was your what was your episode?

SPEAKER_04 24:52

It was oh god, I cannot remember the name of it. I cannot remember the name of it, but I was with Leslie and um uh uh and uh Adam Scott for God. What is Adam Scott's character's name? Can't remember the the one Leslie Note was yeah, Ben, Ben. And um, and both of them are real nice. And um but it it it you know they say for actors like watch the show before you watch if you get an audition for the show, watch the show. You can get an idea of a certain style of a show, and you can get the feel of shows, and that can help you with your audition. I would say I would say easily over half of that my resume. I did not watch the show. I know that's what I'm supposed to do, but have I done that every time? Oh, absolutely not. And um uh because I just think you know young actors, I'm just I'm gonna just say watch the show and help them do what I did. Um but I'm one of those things like you know, you can't be good actors, you know. And sometimes you can watch the show and you can still be bad. But uh again, that was one of those shows I hadn't watched until I did it. And then watching it afterwards was when I was like, oh. So I remember watching the pilot of that. No, no, I remember I watched the pilot of it, and I wasn't a fan. And then after it would have been like four or five years of it was being on the sh on the uh on air or something like that, and then I watched it again, and that's what brought me back to that show, and I think that show's fantastic. Well, that's what that show was scary.

SPEAKER_01 26:29

That's how I was with The Office. Like, I I'd watched the first episode and I was like, eh, it's okay. And then I probably like well, the the show was already over by the time I watched, went back and watched it, but I started watching, I was like, ah, this is pretty funny. And then I ended up watching the entire thing.

SPEAKER_02 26:42

I couldn't do it. It just every like it just like made like my all my arm hair just like prickle out. I'm just like I just want to hit one of you. It's like I can't do it.

SPEAKER_04 26:52

Well, you've used you used to watch the American Office. Have you watched the British version of The Office? I have not.

SPEAKER_02 26:57

I've seen clips and stuff with it with Ricky Gervais, and it's in the same vein, it's I don't want to say it's cringe, but you know it it kind it really, really is though.

SPEAKER_04 27:11

But watching him like or even extras and watching him put himself in the and just making complete ass of himself is is it is cringe worthy. Like I can only watch so many of them because it's so just uncomfortable and the just constantly talking and putting his foot in his mouth and just like a complete ass.

SPEAKER_03 27:33

And now just go, I can't watch any more of these. I gotta time out. I gotta time out. Like I gotta watch some of these enthusiasm.

SPEAKER_02 27:39

Yeah, Kirby enthusiasm is another one.

SPEAKER_04 27:42

I can only watch so many episodes of Kirby with that row because he just is so braving but hilarious at the same time.

SPEAKER_02 27:50

You know what I mean? Yes, it's it's very funny, but it makes like your neck hurt because you're like, you're just got that. It's like I can't uh I want to smack you.

SPEAKER_04 28:01

Yeah, yeah. Wait, so is was uh was Parks your uh favorite comedy, or did you have a favorite comedy?

SPEAKER_02 28:08

That was one of my other shows that have come out probably in the last 15 years. That was probably one of my favorites.

SPEAKER_04 28:14

I've a top three comedy? You have top three comedy?

SPEAKER_02 28:18

I'm more of an old soul. Uh so I love the honeymooners. I think that that's peak comedy and gold, and I love everything about that show and what Jackie Gleason did, and like didn't even rehearse. We just stroll in, you know, like look through and go, all right, that's the bassist, got it. I'm gonna make this the best show ever. And did uh MASH, I love MASH, I've seen every episode. Scrubs was fantastic, and Barney Miller reruns of Barney Miller, that was my favorite.

SPEAKER_00 28:50

Barney Miller, dude.

SPEAKER_03 28:51

You're going way back on that one, too.

SPEAKER_02 28:53

Just the hardcore bass line, and it's like cops show it's the 70s, and it's a total comedy.

SPEAKER_04 28:59

Here's the question: you're like, what is the best TV theme show song of all time, do you think?

SPEAKER_01 29:04

Oh, that is we've done TV theme show trivia before. We have, and that's if we like key it up and we know them all. Um I don't I mean, granted, it's it's more of a kid's uh TV show, but Boy Meets World, I always like that one.

SPEAKER_02 29:22

That's a good one.

SPEAKER_01 29:23

Where they're like uh the teenage years when they're like pouring the water on each other's head and the credits and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_02 29:29

You know, I think Hill Street Blues that's a great one. The piano you know, it's like it starts like the roll of door goes up and the car and the lights, you know, police car guns out, and then the with the piano is just great.

SPEAKER_01 29:42

Oh well, well, I if you're if not just about comedy shows, but Smallville. I always enjoyed if you've ever seen Smallville, because the the summer I can I'm not a singer, but somebody save me, you know, kind of thing. I always like that one. Keep going, don't keep going. No, no, no, no, no, no, we're good.

SPEAKER_02 29:58

Two more verses, the Emmy's in the mail. Tony, whatever it is. I'm I'm not trying to do like superhero shows because I'd be like, you know, well, 1994 Spider-Man. Well, yeah, with Aerosmith did the intro. That was awesome. No, hold on a second. Hold on.

SPEAKER_04 30:12

Can can can the can can the TV theme show, does it have to be an original? Like, because for example, with Booker, that TV show Booker in the 90s, could you say uh uh uh Hot in the City? Because they used Hot in the City for that theme song, Billy Idol's Hot in the City. You can't you can't use that one, I think, because that was a song that then they put in for the theme song as opposed to a song that was.

SPEAKER_02 30:37

No, it's gotta be written for it. Right. You know what else? Yeah, the show had the best theme, um, in my opinion. Ed Ednetti. I don't know if you watched Ed Ednetti. It was the cartoon version pretty much of the three stooges for kids for for my generation growing up. But it just starts with that whistle, you know, the and then you know, ed ednetti, and then it rips in this like jazz riff, and it's like the funniest thing because they're just like smacking the crap out of each other on camera.

SPEAKER_04 31:05

Well, the 70s and 80s had the best. I grew up in like the 80s, where it was like you had to have a good theme song.

SPEAKER_02 31:12

You know, if you never have a good theme song, you have a show.

SPEAKER_03 31:14

Yeah, because you have to catch them. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I know who's starring it, but you have a theme song.

SPEAKER_04 31:22

We need a strong opening. And it's one of those things where I I think you're missing some real good ones. Good times. Jefferson.

SPEAKER_02 31:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 31:34

Welcome back, Carter.

SPEAKER_02 31:36

Yeah, welcome back, Carter.

SPEAKER_04 31:38

Cheers.

SPEAKER_02 31:39

Cheers.

SPEAKER_01 31:39

I was just I was thinking cheers.

SPEAKER_02 31:41

Yeah, cheers. I was when he said Growing Growing Pains.

SPEAKER_01 31:44

I don't remember Growing Pain.

SPEAKER_02 31:45

I don't remember the one from the show.

SPEAKER_04 31:49

That one's fantastic. Are we stealing any of the ones I just threw out? Oh, one day at a time? Get up on your feet. Somewhere music, play it. I mean, come on.

SPEAKER_02 32:04

I'm just I'm I just keep hearing the cheers theme going on in my head. As soon as you said cheers, I'm like, sometimes you wanna go.

SPEAKER_03 32:14

So you're going cheers then, or are you sticking with Hill Street Blues?

SPEAKER_02 32:17

Uh Hill Street Blues. Okay. More more for sentimental value to me. My dad, you know, he was like, hey, he's like, you really like the show. Me and him watch like the first couple seasons together. So it's more like, you know, happy memory kind of thing. But if you were gonna be in any of those shows in the 80s that you like, what show would you love to have been on?

SPEAKER_04 32:37

Oh, I mean if if I could well, if I could star on any TV show in the 80s, or if I take over that role, I would come on, either Jack Tripper on Three's Company or David Addison on Moonlight. I mean, those were just fantastic shows. Fantastic. Again, Moonlighting it was before your time, huh? Yeah, right. For me, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:04

If you ever, you know, it's on blue. I'm telling you, you watch that and you'll see why Bruce Willis became star. Or was sorry, just fantastic. And then with with uh like Sybil Shepherd, I don't think she gets enough credit for how good of a straight man she was to David. I mean to Bruce Willis. I mean, she's doing like because like same with like I Love Lucy, I Love Lucy was hilarious, but without Des Arnez and him playing the straight man, that wouldn't have been nearly as good a show. Deszi Arnaz really in straight man, really I don't think he gets nearly enough credit as he should. And I would feel the same way about Civil Shepherd on Moonlight because if you go back and it's on Hulu, it holds up. And it is hysterical. Like especially the first uh uh two seasons, two two and a half seasons, are are fantastic. You got a treat waiting for you if you ever want to go to Hulu and watch some Moonlight, it's fantastic.

SPEAKER_02 34:05

I'll have to watch this. No, I would probably want to do Magnum PI.

SPEAKER_03 34:10

Just for the short short, just for the short shorts. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:14

I mean, I already wear them.

SPEAKER_01 34:15

Yeah, he does. Several pairs of Chubby shorts, five-inch inseams, nothing but thigh. That's what he's going for normally just the mustache, you know.

SPEAKER_03 34:23

Yeah, the mustache. I do.

SPEAKER_01 34:29

We don't have to see it. It's okay.

SPEAKER_04 34:32

But that's the it it's uh uh uh you know those short shorts. Do you know about, as a matter of fact, speaking of three's company, they have to they had a computer edit supposedly one of the episodes of Three's Company because of Jack Tripper's short shorts, and supposedly one of his balls is popping up in this episode.

SPEAKER_02 34:54

It's like, and if you look closely, John Ritter's right testicle.

SPEAKER_03 35:00

God darn it, he's right. Well, yeah, supposedly those his short shorts were so short.

SPEAKER_04 35:11

I can't do it. The short shorts are coming back on guys.

SPEAKER_03 35:17

I don't like it.

SPEAKER_02 35:19

Shorts never should have gone past the knee.

SPEAKER_03 35:22

It was ridiculous.

SPEAKER_02 35:26

They were almost complete pants.

SPEAKER_04 35:28

They were like, exactly. Like when they got when you watch like the like when that's when I watch the NBA games in like the the early 2000s, and everything is just yeah, baggy and blues.

SPEAKER_03 35:42

You know, they're like wearing ten, like just you know, like hefty bags on them.

SPEAKER_04 35:45

Everything's so baggy, it's just like ridiculous, just absolutely ridiculous. But now they're starting to creep up, man. These shorts on guys. Have you noticed this at all?

SPEAKER_02 35:55

I have. Because I wear them.

SPEAKER_01 35:57

I mean, all uh other than my stuff that I wear for work, all I ever do is wear like gym clothes, anyways, because I don't go no go anywhere, do anything.

SPEAKER_03 36:07

Now hold on a second. Can you see my like, can you see my like you got you got from the knee to my hip?

SPEAKER_04 36:13

You got that?

SPEAKER_01 36:14

We can see like pocket hip.

SPEAKER_04 36:16

How about that?

SPEAKER_01 36:17

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_04 36:18

You got it?

SPEAKER_01 36:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:20

I'm gonna I'm gonna raise my hand and you tell me stop or you're short stop, okay?

SPEAKER_01 36:24

All right. Right there. That's for me.

SPEAKER_04 36:27

That's for your short stop.

SPEAKER_01 36:28

Yeah, that's me.

SPEAKER_04 36:29

You didn't say stop. You didn't say stop. All right, here we go. Keep going.

SPEAKER_03 36:40

You better not, you better do the podcast because the ball is gonna pop out and you don't want to have that close.

SPEAKER_01 36:46

He walks around, he's got them hairy white legs.

SPEAKER_02 36:49

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:50

I got hairy white legs, but that's why I can leave long or short.

SPEAKER_02 36:54

That's how I leave Mr. Mouth.

SPEAKER_04 36:57

That's the other thing. You need like I got kind of chick. I think I got some chicken, my my I think I got chicken legs. It's a chicken crazy. I think if you have good legs for it, you can go shorter pants. But also, I just don't like them that high.

SPEAKER_02 37:11

I ended up getting a pair of chubbies and they're like they were six-inch. I don't know what that is. It's it's the brand. Oh, okay. I'm really hoping that's what it's like. I had a chubby. I thought I need shorts.

SPEAKER_03 37:23

I've never heard of a being chubby.

SPEAKER_02 37:25

I need chubby for but you know, the the shorts they have like a drawstring on the inside so you can get like a proper fit if you don't want to wear a belt. The pockets have a zipper over the for the back pocket if your wallet's there, which is great. You know, elastiky, breathable in the summer, a lot of give, and they're just you know comfortable. They sit about mid-thigh. It's very nice.

SPEAKER_04 37:47

They're kind of like sounds like they're like all have you ever uh had bird dogs, bird dog short shorts? No, I didn't. Oh, they're great.

SPEAKER_00 37:55

They're great.

SPEAKER_04 37:56

Same with the pants. But does it but I don't like the ones that have the built-in underwear? No, no, I don't want that. Yeah, because then I can't wear the shorts multiple times.

unknown 38:07

Right?

SPEAKER_03 38:10

Yeah, are you trying to say you're one and done when you wear your shorts? You don't wear your shorts like the same shorts two or three days in a row?

SPEAKER_02 38:15

No, I do because mine would have the built-in underwear. Who wants to have built-in underwear into a pair of shorts? It's like, ah man, it's good, Mark. Yeah. You can't wear them two days in a row. No, it's just that's bad marketing. You you just it's it's a stupid idea. Who would even put that? We need to segue back into this show because we're we're going down a long trail here. We are going down a long trail, but it's a fun trail. Now, I believe earlier you said you had been on 70 different television shows.

SPEAKER_04 38:44

Oh, I've shot 70 episodes, so I think I've been on 50 of like 50 television shows, and I've shot a bunch of episodes. Like sometimes I've been reoccurring on some of these other shows.

SPEAKER_02 38:54

What was your favorite that you've been on so far?

SPEAKER_04 39:02

Alright. I gotta say. I tell you what. Doing um doing a bunch of episodes for General Hospital and playing just an evil character, a completely evil character with a ton of fun. And everybody on I gotta say, that's gonna be everybody on that show was super nice. Super nice. That's the other thing that made it great. But then the other thing that made it um fun too or challenging was on a soap, you get one take. That's it. You get one take. And I don't know if you guys ever done any acting or or done a scene or anything like that, or or maybe even did a speech. And the first time you do it is just you just get through it, and then like, oh great.

SPEAKER_03 39:52

Now that we got that one out of the way, let's really do it, you know?

SPEAKER_04 39:55

And it's it's it it was such a great lesson of letting go of perfection, just kind of doing your thing, and then just trusting, okay, that's out to the universe.

SPEAKER_03 40:05

You know what I mean? Whether that was good acting or bad acting, that's out to the universe.

SPEAKER_04 40:10

And um, and uh, and that helped me really let go of uh uh I'm a I'm a recovering perfectionist. Helped me get rid of that, you know. Because I think I call you remember um you know Brutus the Barbered peefcake? Remember Brutus? Yes that was that we and he his finishing move was a sleeper hold, right? And I say it's like um perfectionism is like the sleeper hold on joy. And the more you apply that, the longer you have that you know sleeper hold on joy, the more the joy or the perfectionism on joy, the more joy just kind of disappears and goes to sleep, you know. Um because you want to nail the take, and you want to get it right. But sometimes when you're that way, you you you're you're not really playing and you're just trying to get the beats right and hit certain things that you've just been in the moment. And that's what was great about Two Box. It was just trusting and letting go and being okay no matter what happens. It's out there, it's done. Let's go on to the next one. But it was also great playing a real evil character, too. I mean, I was I shot her up so much with so many drugs, she was ridiculous. And then the and the the the comments that I was getting from the the uh the the fans online uh on on Instagram whenever I post a picture. My god, they hated me. Love to hate me. They love to hate me. I mean, and they hated me and just saw the all it was just the the things I was being called, and I would just you know text back or message back because I thought it was hilarious. And um, you know, one of my favorite moments of my uh uh acting career came when I was with a General Hospital fan where we're sitting at this dinner table and um or dinner party. And my friend asked, Hey, so how's General Hospital going? And this guy was sitting at the end of the table, he's like 77 years old, right? And I guess he thought he was talking to him because he goes, It's going great, General Hospital's fantastic. I've been watching it for 25 years, it's in a struggle. I'm playing me and my wife never miss it at all. It's going great, and I just find I just can't miss an episode. And my friend goes, No, no, no, I was talking to him. And he goes, What? And he goes, Yeah, no, he's on General Hospital, and then the guy just looks at me. You're on General Hospital? And I go, yeah. And he goes, Who do you play? And I go, I'm Dr. Montague. And then he lights up. The 77-year-old man lights up like a Christmas joy with his eyes and his smile.

SPEAKER_03 42:49

He goes, and he just looks at me and he goes, I fucking hate you. And I start bursting out laughing, and he goes, and my wife hates you too.

SPEAKER_04 43:00

And I thought that was so I laughed so hard. I've never seen anybody light up with that much joy and then say that word to me.

SPEAKER_01 43:10

So you're you're like being like the Emperor of Star Wars. Just feed me your hate.

SPEAKER_04 43:15

Yes, yes. Oh my god, dude, that I gotta tell you, that made my day. I don't think I that was I can't think of anything like that. It was such a wonderful moment, and the fact that uh that show created that moment. Uh it was I I have never again the juxtaposition of how he looked and his joy in the face and saying that to me was just great. This is great. But then he goes, Hey, I didn't even know that was you, meaning you're so gregarious and you know, and Dr. Montsky was, you know, very just evil, and he goes, That's a you know, that's a testament to how good of an actor you are. And you're like, Thank you. Yeah, that was uh that that was I had uh uh the most fun on. But uh there's been some other ones like comedy ones that like Minx. I had a great day on that. And because I I went to this Minx is a show that takes place in the 70s. And when I went to get to go to wardrobe, uh I had they gave me this 70s, this great 70s leisure suit. It was fantastic, and they gave me this tie that had jaguars all over on it. It's awesome! A tie with jaguars on it. And I I was so inspired by what I wore that when I got the set, I went to um, I walked into makeup and I I just looked at the makeup ladies and I said, ladies, I think McCaracter needs a mustache.

SPEAKER_03 44:56

She lit up and she was like, yes!

SPEAKER_04 44:59

And she put this porn stash, you know, this beautiful porn stash 70s mustache on me, and it looked fantastic. And usually when uh usually when they you're making a choice like that, they'll take a picture of it because they gotta get approval for it. She goes, okay, it's like the EP since there, the the executive producer goes, Yeah, that's fine. You gotta get that check. And she went, that thing is so hysterical, and that thing looks so good, I'm not even gonna get approval on it.

SPEAKER_02 45:30

I'm just like, that's just that's it.

SPEAKER_03 45:32

Yeah, she goes, and if someone says something, they say something, but don't you what he said? I'm like, I'm not saying a damn thing.

SPEAKER_04 45:38

Because it was so good, and nobody thought, and it was the end of the day where I finally went, Hey, you know, this this is not my mustache, and they were like, What are you creepy? It was so good. But then when that when you know, when I have that mustache and I got the jaguar tie that got me in like the character even that much more, and I was just having so much fun playing with this douchey guy, it was fantastic. Fantastic. I was a lot of fun, too.

SPEAKER_02 46:03

Now, being in, you know, you're in LA, you're in all these shows, what's your best uh starstruck moment?

SPEAKER_04 46:16

It had to do with a mustache. And it was not uh necessarily um, because I've never really been starstruck, never been starstruck until um actually no way two times I've been starstruck. One was I walked into an audition and um they're like, yes, the director will be here. And I was like, okay, great. Just let and they said, Oh, just let you know the director will be in the room with you. Well, okay, great. And I walked in the room, and uh it was George Clooney. And he was hired on George Clooney, and it's when he was doing Oh Brother We're out though, and he had this mustache looking in the mustache.

SPEAKER_03 47:03

And at first I was like, that's a that's a silly mustache, on you, but then I'm looking at him like that's Batman, man. You're Batman. He's like, yeah, and he started laughing and just saying, I'm like, no, but yeah, you're Batman, dude.

SPEAKER_04 47:17

And uh uh uh it was um it was so but it it was because I was so thrown. I think that was more about just being thrown. Uh-huh. Because you wouldn't think they would tell you he was in the room. And so if I think if I just saw him on the street, I don't think I've been thrown. But the fact I'm about to act in, you know, in front of him, you just and he was just so matter-of fact, I'm George Clewley. You're mad for him. I know, we can tell. You don't even have to say it. Dude, and the other one is when I was with uh uh I was at this um heavyweight boxing match. And um have you ever by the way, have you guys ever seen a heavyweight boxing match live?

SPEAKER_02 47:57

No. No.

SPEAKER_04 47:58

It is insane. Like watching it on TV compared to watching a live boxing match. Oh my god, it is night and day. You know, kind of like we were talking about hockey, like hockey live. It is so different live than it is watching it on TV. Just these two monster matches beating the crap out of each other. But anyway, there was a bunch of celebrities there. Like Mr. T was there, Tom Hanks was there, like all these people were there. And um but then I have one I'm standing in the like you know how you walk into an arena, they kind of have that little corridor like a tunnel like from the um concession stands and everything, yeah, to the to the actual stadium beside the stadium or the the arena. And uh I heard someone say something. I turn around. And there's Kristen Davis from Sex in the City. Uh-huh. You ever played Charlotte? And you know how there's wind? Sometimes there's wind in that little tunnel between the and so she's got this wind is blowing.

SPEAKER_03 49:07

And she's backlit, and her hair is just in her dress. And I thought it was like it was like that uh you know Waynes World moment where I says, Dream Weaver, and I was you know, or I'm like, you know how the karma zooms where it's like it was like that, and she looked, she radiated, and I was just and I like I got a weakness for brunette.

SPEAKER_04 49:37

So her being a brunette, and again the fact that she was back with and the wind was and her hair was just blowing. It was literally some out of some amount of mood. And that's the second time where I was just like, oh. Didn't talk to her though.

SPEAKER_02 49:54

No, I was about to ask, I was like, and what happened next? So I went, I think we just watching her go by, oh she probably like puts like a little notch, it's just like, and another one.

SPEAKER_04 50:14

Although, you know what? I will say the another time that happened is I was went to the Oscars. And I was I uh I as I was leaving, I was like, I was I I've had a few. And I tried to get into the governor's ball at the end, but I was when I was there, I was making friends with just everybody, like all the security people. I was talking to everybody. And I snuck into the governor's ball, but because I knew all the the security, he's like, what are you doing here? And they kicked me out, and I was upset by that. And so on my way out, I'm just like, I'm gonna take to kick me out of the governor's ball. I'm gonna take these, because we've got roses everywhere. I'm gonna take this bouquet road and I'm gonna take another bouquet road. I'm thinking it's like that moment at the end of the jerk where he's like, I just need this, and he just keeps taking things. And I could take bouquets of roses, and then I had this idea of like, oh, you know, it'd be really nice if I all these people who work this event if I give uh I decided that I was gonna give every woman who worked the event two roses and every guy a rose uh to give to whoever they wanted to give to. So I just kept stealing roses, and so I kept giving them out. I'm just giving them out, I kept stealing more roses and giving them out. I was like determined I'm not gonna miss anybody.

SPEAKER_03 51:32

Everyone's getting roses.

SPEAKER_04 51:34

And at one point during this during the time I was doing this, the security guard comes up to me and says, uh, excuse me, sir, my my boss wants to know why are you stealing all our roses? I go, I go, I've decided that everyone who works in Spencer, they need to be recognized just like everybody, all the stars here. They need to be recognized too. So I'm giving two roses to every woman and one rose to every guy. And if your and if your uh uh boss has a problem, and I go, and since you're a woman, here are your two root roses, and if your boss has got a problem with it, she can come to me. My name is Darren Tooner, and then she just looks at me and she goes, carry on, sir. But at the end of the night, I'm talking to this one girl, and all of a sudden I hear this uh voice behind me says, I like a rose, and I turn around, and it's Kate Hunter, and she looked like it looked like she had that specially lit for her where she was standing outside. I mean, she looked gorgeous, gorgeous. And um and I said, Well, um, did you work the event? She goes, No, I said, I'm giving out two roses to everyone who's worked the event. Did you work the event? And then she went, no. And I'm like, then no roses for you.

SPEAKER_03 53:07

The girl goes to me, she goes, That's Kate Hudson, give her a rose. I'm like, I know what I'm doing. I know what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_04 53:14

She's like, give her a rose, give her a rose. I'm like, I know what I'm doing. And I turn back around all cool and everything. And I go, I'll tell you what, my friend wants me to give you a rose. Um so if you want, would you like a rose stone? She goes, Yes, I would. And I go, Okay, well, I've been running around all day. So if you want a rose, uh, I'm not gonna come to you. You can come to me and get one. She just does this. And I laugh so hard. I laughed so hard. I can't wait to. I'm hoping to meet her someday so I can say, Hidden that time.

SPEAKER_02 53:50

Do you remember the rose guy? That's me.

SPEAKER_04 53:54

By the way, I did try to bounce her. I said, Okay, now I just waited a minute. I'm like, okay, now I'm gonna go out to where they're picking everybody up. So Linda's needs something to talk to her. Right? So because she but she looked gorgeous, gorgeous. Um, so those I would say that the only time I've been starstruck was that George Clooney moment. But again, I thought that was more of a surprise. You think they would tell you he's in the room?

SPEAKER_01 54:17

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 54:18

So yeah, director's there. It's just like it's it's George Clooney. It's like, oh, is it like, yeah, yeah, the Roger's like, okay. There you go. It's like, that's that's George Clooney. That's the oceans guy.

SPEAKER_04 54:29

Well, that's what I thought was so funny when I'm George Clooney. I just went, Batman, Batman. Yeah, you Batman.

SPEAKER_02 54:37

He's like, I know, stop rebuting me. Sorry. Now, before we sign off here, Darren, is there anything you got coming up you want to mention?

SPEAKER_04 54:49

Well, you know what? I tell you what, I'm I'm uh looking forward. I have this nothing to do with um with acting, but I have a bucket list of hitting all 50 states. And I'm not talking like drive through 50 states. You know, I'm actually you're going to go business. So I got a bucket list of hitting 50 states, and I'm at 44 right now. Wow. Looking real, I'm really looking forward to banging out uh doing Minnesota and Oregon. So uh I'm doing those this summer, and I'm super excited to do that. And uh so that's what I'm looking forward to.

SPEAKER_01 55:24

Have you have you already gotten the furthest ones, Alaska and Hawaii?

SPEAKER_04 55:27

I did Alaska.

SPEAKER_01 55:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 55:29

And I got COVID.

SPEAKER_01 55:32

Never doing that again.

SPEAKER_02 55:34

I got COVID. It's the most isolated state that we had. Could be worse. He could have been bitten by a moose.

SPEAKER_04 55:41

It could have been. It could have been Alaska was gorgeous, but yeah, I've knocked out Hawaii, Alaska. Okay. So I've got I've got Oregon, Montana, North Dakota, Minnesota, and Rhode Island. Okay. Wait, wait, did I say him at 44 or 45? Oh, in Idaho. Idaho.

SPEAKER_02 56:04

Udaho. A joke from middle school. Yeah, exactly. Finally made a comeback 27 plus years later.

SPEAKER_04 56:13

But I do have this. You guys are dads, yes. Yes. Before we leave, I want to ask you this because I enjoy these. And these because you're dads, because of what you just said. What's your favorite dad joke?

SPEAKER_02 56:28

I really feel like a lot of mine are situational. Where it's just something you have to do. I'm a situational comic. It's I really don't know.

SPEAKER_01 56:43

Mine's always I tell my kids you make a better door than a window. Sit down. Because they'll be standing in front of the TV or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 56:51

It's like you don't have one. It's like you might be in pain, but you're not made out of glass. I don't know. I I do this like I do it all day. It's so hard to recall a single one.

SPEAKER_01 57:08

I I made fun of Tom because he he's getting in, he just became a dad, so he's getting into the groove of it. But like I went out of my truck to get something before we started. I came back in and he's been painting like the walls in his house. And he was standing there with his hands on his hips, just admiring his work. I did a good job.

SPEAKER_02 57:24

And I'm just standing on, I feel like in the toolmate Taylor goes, looking up. It's like I did that. That looks nice. It's like, look at that.

SPEAKER_01 57:32

I mean, we're trying to get him uh me and Hate will try to get him to come hang out with us. He's like, I can't. I got a mobile one. It's like two, two, three, three. You're in your 30s. You can mow it when you got time.

SPEAKER_03 57:45

Are you a ride mower? Are you a ride mower or a push mower?

SPEAKER_02 57:48

I got a push mower. I don't have a yard big enough to for a ride to justify a ride off. But that's money I'm saving because I cut it myself. And when I cut the diamond patterns in myself, and I'm standing there, and my neighbors have to walk down the sidewalk and then they look and then they look at their studyards and look at the their husbands. I know it's like that argument later, I caused that. I don't care. I did that. That's me.

SPEAKER_03 58:12

Wait, so you do the you do the perimeter and then the structure.

SPEAKER_02 58:16

Oh yeah, I'll do the diamond patterns, I'll cross coat them, or I'll do diagonals. I almost I wanted to put my initials in the front yard one time when I said no. I was gonna I was doing like all this stuff, and I'm just like and like I was doing it like the I would see my neighbors like I would cut and then I'd see them come out and like look, and then like an hour later they're out cutting their grass code. And I'm just like you got that from your dad, right? Because that whenever I mowed along, I he had us do that. So you got that from your dad, right? Oh yeah, his our yard in New York and his now. It looks like the uh picture of the lawn on like the Scots bag. Like the grass has been willed to grow vertical, 90 degrees, each blade, they won't go past a certain point, carpet thick, you know, even. It's just immaculate. My yard isn't, but you know, his was.

SPEAKER_04 59:02

I just make sure you do have weeds. But yeah, because my dad, you go you you do the perimeter twice, and then you start.

SPEAKER_03 59:10

Yeah. Yeah. And then the next week you gotta go the opposite direction.

SPEAKER_02 59:15

Exactly. Your dad is a man of wisdom and knowledge. Wait, so did you do once around the perimeter or twice around the perimeter? Twice. Can't fool me. Can't fool me, Darren. I know how to cut my own my own yard.

SPEAKER_04 59:32

Well, gentlemen, it has been a it's been a lot of fun. So thanks, thanks for letting me uh uh be a part of this. And uh I enjoyed this just as much as the first hour and a half, 15 minutes that we talked before we went recording.

SPEAKER_01 59:43

We appreciate you working with us and making this work out better.

SPEAKER_02 59:47

We do greatly appreciate all the time you've dedicated to us, not just the hour we've recorded, but our sidebar conversations. Um we're gonna sign off here. Uh this is an episode of Entertain Nist. We hope you enjoyed what you listened to. That was Darren Tounder. Check us out on social media where you can find us on Instagram at entertainnists underscore and every single other streaming service humanly possible. We're on it because Mitch made us. And we'll catch you on the next episode.