Commando: 90 Minutes of Arnold Violating the Geneva Convention

Buckle up, action figures, because this week Tom and Mitch are strapped to the teeth with camo face paint, infinite ammunition, and absolutely zero regard for physics. We are diving headfirst into the peak 1985 Arnold Schwarzenegger masterpiece: Commando.

Join us as we break down the ultimate "one-man army" flick. Tom tries to calculate the exact structural integrity of Arnold carrying a massive log on his shoulder like it’s a pool noodle, while Mitch uncovers the real villain of the movie—not the dictatorial bad guys, but Bennett’s legendary, tight-fitting chainmail vest.

Grab your rocket launchers and your speedos. It’s time to eat some green berets for breakfast.

Transcript

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I lied.

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Well, welcome to Entertain This, a podcast about movies, TV shows, and video games. With me I have Tom. And I'm Mitch. We don't have our lovely co-host Hayden here today. He's lovely. If I had a button that cheered, I would hit the button, but I don't. Woo. No, he recommended we record today, and then he the day before he goes, I can't make it. It's like okay.

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And he flaked out.

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Anyways, well, uh, before we get started, we'll go over our social media. Time!

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Well, you can go to entertainthispodcast.com or you can go to X TikTok and another one. Instagram. Instagram. That was the one I'm thinking of. At entertainths underscore.

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Right. Good job. Good job. And on YouTube at entertain this 59.

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There. Yeah. Yeah.

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At those places. Um, yeah, today we're gonna be moving a little further along. This last episode we did uh The summer of Arnold.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:28

The Summer of Swanegger.

SPEAKER_00 1:31

The summer of Arnold. Uh the last movie we did was Terminator in what, 1984?

SPEAKER_02 1:38

Yes. Now we're moving on to the 1985 classic Commando.

SPEAKER_00 1:43

Yeah. Starring John Matrix. Oh, I mean Arnold Schwarzenegger.

SPEAKER_02 1:48

John Matrix.

SPEAKER_00 1:51

This is the first time I've ever seen this movie, and when they called it Matrix, I was like, what kind of movie is this?

SPEAKER_02 1:56

It's an Arnold movie, and it's a great one.

SPEAKER_00 2:00

I thought it was just so bad it was funny. Like so bad it was good because it was funny.

SPEAKER_01 2:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:06

Reading this about how they they praised the film for its action sequences and humor. I didn't think they were trying to be funny. I thought it was just was funny.

SPEAKER_02 2:14

It was pretty funny.

SPEAKER_00 2:16

It was, but I didn't know they were trying for funny.

SPEAKER_01 2:18

I green berets for backflips.

SPEAKER_00 2:20

Yeah. Um, let's see. Yeah, this movie was made in 1985. Uh great year. Yeah, it won a Saturn Award for best special effects. I'm sorry, it was nominated, but lost to Back to the Future. Yeah, I mean like I said, I watched the movie. It was a little strange. Um I re I found out that Alyssa Milano is the child. I did not know that looking at her. Yeah. She she plays Jenny. Arnold made about two million dollars for this film out of your ten million dollar budget. He made a fifth of the budget.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

I love the poster that's on Wikipedia. In the top it says, Somewhere, somehow, someone's gonna pay.

SPEAKER_00 3:08

The only thing they can make it better with at the bottom is that it doesn't matter who. It doesn't matter who. We're gonna find somebody. Um doing a little research, I found out this is the same, like the mall scene in this movie, it's the same mall they use for T2. The the Sherman Oak Galleria. I don't know if it's still around. Is it really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:26

I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_00 3:28

Uh another thing, the reason it took so long to do this film when they were making it is because Arnold had to do most of his own stunts because they couldn't find someone his size to copy, you know. He had uh he had three hospital trips throughout the making of the movie. I believe it. Like having to get staples and stitches and stuff. Uh let's see.

SPEAKER_02 3:46

Probably when he falls from the plane.

SPEAKER_00 3:49

Uh I can't remember.

SPEAKER_02 3:50

There was one where he's like he hides in the landing gear and jumps off into like the lever clean.

SPEAKER_00 3:56

Yes. He he does that. There's a uh in the mall when he swings and like lands on top of the elevator. Um another thing I read was that the uh execs for the movie originally didn't want Arnold to talk at all. They just wanted him to be like the Terminator because I had just come out.

SPEAKER_02 4:11

It's like just don't even say anything.

SPEAKER_00 4:15

But then uh I forgot who the let's see who was the uh director of Mark Lester. Him and Arnold had been on uh record saying that they wanted they this was inspired by a DC comics character called Sgt. Rock. It was like a World War II character from DC Comics, which they actually wanted to make a movie of later, but I never could get the uh the budget.

SPEAKER_02 4:41

Well they had the commando. Yeah. Why bother? This movie has the best 80s sound. Now like I don't know, it just it just has it where it's like I don't I can't even make the noise. You know what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_00 4:56

Yeah. Yeah. It was like I said, to me the movie was so bad it was good, it was funny.

SPEAKER_02 5:04

This is peak Arnold action.

SPEAKER_00 5:07

But I'm because I because I I've got several things uh to talk about in this episode, so I'll go ahead and jump into it for the plot. In upstate California, John Matrix, a former United States Army Special Forces colonel, is informed Colonel Colonel Yeah that with no R. Is informed by his former superior, Major General Franklin Kirby, that unknown mercenaries have killed all the other members of his former unit. The assassins attack Matrix's secluded mountain home and kidnap his young daughter Jenny. While trying to intercept them, Matrix is tranquilized and abducted by the mercenaries led by Bennett, an ex-member of Matrix team, discharged for excess violence. Bennett had faked his death and is now working with the mercenaries as a revenge against the latter. And that's not the whole first paragraph, but we're just gonna start stop there because a lot of stuff happens.

SPEAKER_02 5:58

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 5:59

First off, you have Lumberjack uh Arnold.

SPEAKER_02 6:01

Lumberjack Arnold, and he's that log is real. He's carrying that.

SPEAKER_00 6:05

Yeah, but he comes out wearing this like way too tight, skin-tight lumberjack uh plaid shirt.

SPEAKER_02 6:11

They didn't make shirts that big in 1985.

SPEAKER_00 6:16

And then like they had this whole montage after the show Arnold of just the bad guys being bad, like driving around stealing stuff, shooting people, blowing stuff up. It's like they're bad guys. It's like you're just watching a montage of like live action GTA. It's like what is going on here? They're bad.

SPEAKER_02 6:35

They're very bad.

SPEAKER_00 6:38

But uh, like as Arnold's walking towards the house or whatever, he puts down the log, and then this child runs up and he grabs her and he just like shakes her. Like it doesn't look like a loving shake, he's just like shaking the child like what do you want?

SPEAKER_01 6:52

Why are you here? How did you find me? Who am I?

SPEAKER_00 6:58

Then uh when uh like in the same scene, like he's shaking the child, and they're they're fishing and having fun and all this really awkward-looking father-daughter stuff, like not awkward like as in creepy, but just awkward because it's I'm a dad. Yeah, he's like, You're just watching this giant hulking guy sitting down with a fishing rod. Just looks strange. It's like, can I get in the water and punch the fish instead? But but you have the uh the major general Kirby show up and he's like, you know, all this stuff's happening, you know, but nothing can be you know, can't what was it? Uh instant corner is what I wrote down. He says, It can't be bad. Can't be too bad. You know, you're you should be fine here. And like the minute the general flies away, then they start lighting up his house. Like the bad guys show up, start blowing up stuff. He leaves two guys there with him that they both get killed immediately, almost. And then they they grab his daughter and Vamus out the building in Vamoose. Well, because like he they grab his daughter and like leave, and then there's one guy still inside. As Arnold sneaks back into the house with his guns, this guy's like, We've got your daughter. You can't kill me, or you'll never find out where she is. BOW! He's like, What up at? Shoots him, and then uh you see two cars going down like the road. He goes outside, tries to get into the truck, and he when he opens the hood, he just pulls out a bunch of wires because there's they've heard they like destroyed the engine or something. So instead, he opens the in the truck door, starts pushing the truck down the hill, and then just jumps in, and he's just basically you know, free power wheeling or free power steering, just riding it in neutral, just like wee gravity. Well, it's it's funny because like as they're curving down the hill, there's like a couple times where he comes close, he's like passes them and he's looking at him as he goes by, keeps on going. They get down to the next part, and he's like behind them as they went by. It'll just fun to watch. They're just like, who is this dude?

SPEAKER_02 8:56

It's like I know that Bennett guy said he was crazy.

SPEAKER_00 9:00

And then just the whole name, like his name is John Matrix. It just made me laugh.

SPEAKER_02 9:05

It is just like what kind of last name is Matrix, Cardinal Matrix.

SPEAKER_00 9:09

And and a lot of these mercenaries are like the least menacing people ever. Like they just look goofy.

SPEAKER_02 9:15

Like the Bennett guy with like the fishnet shirt thing. Yeah. And like the knife he's just like always just messing around with.

SPEAKER_00 9:24

Right. He's like, he wants to make himself look like he's tough.

SPEAKER_02 9:27

I I I don't but he's like fat. Yeah, he's like he looked like he was scary ten years ago, but he's not really anymore.

SPEAKER_00 9:35

Well, then you have uh Dan Hadaya.

SPEAKER_02 9:38

Yeah, as like the South African dictator guy.

SPEAKER_00 9:41

But when you like you look at him, he's like, this guy's always in comedy movies as like the screw up. So it's like, why is this guy the big guy?

SPEAKER_02 9:47

Uh let's see, you had uh David Patrick Kelly, which he's uh he's he's in the Warriors, he's a guy in from the rogues who's clanking the bottles, going Warriors!

SPEAKER_00 9:58

Or he's in uh he's also he's in the crow as like one of the hitchmen, he's going fire it up, fire it!

SPEAKER_02 10:05

Yeah, he's in he's in John Wick 1. Is he? Yeah, he's the uh like the cleanup guy. Oh, all the guys attack his house, and he's just like, You working again? And he's like, I'd have an order. He's like for he's like a table for 12.

SPEAKER_00 10:22

Well see, we'll continue on here. Matrix is taken before their commander, Arias, a former South American dictator whom Matrix removed from power. Arius blackmails Matrix into carrying out a political assassination in his home country of Valverde, where he wishes to lead a military coup. So basically, they want him. They have a whole army and they want him to assassinate a guy. And then they'll give him his daughter back. You kidnap this man's daughter, whose sole mission is.

SPEAKER_02 10:55

This guy disposed you from power.

SPEAKER_00 10:58

And and his he does this all by himself. And you want him to kill this person and then get his daughter back, and just it's all gonna be okay.

SPEAKER_02 11:06

And he's just gonna let it go. Like, are you dumb?

SPEAKER_00 11:11

We'll continue on here. With with Jenny's life on the line, Matrix seemingly agrees to fulfill the demand. After boarding a flight to Valverde, Matrix kills his guard, Hendrix, and jumps off the plane just as it is taking off. And we'll stop there for a moment.

SPEAKER_02 11:26

Okay, I have a blanket to the pillow.

SPEAKER_00 11:31

Well, actually, let's read a little further because I got some notes here. Uh it says realizing that Arias will kill Jenny, regardless of whether or not he does the job at approximately eleven hours before the plane is scheduled to land, Matrix sets out after Arius' associate, Sully. Matrix enlists the aid of an off-duty flight attendant named Cindy, whom he saw Sully harass and instructs her to follow Sully to a shopping mall. Before we get to that part, when he when he meets Cindy after watching Sully follow her around, he sneaks up to the side of her car and rips the whole scene out with one arm. I know.

SPEAKER_02 12:11

I was I was wondering, I was hoping you were gonna talk about it. He just like yeets.

SPEAKER_00 12:16

He just rips the seat out and then sits down next to her in the broken seat. And she's just like, what the but like who is this woman? She's just a flight attendant, and he I'll go ahead and tell you, throughout this entire movie, she's Stockholm Syndrome's hard. Throughout this entire movie, John Matrix, other than trying to rescue his child, is the bad guy. He shoots and blows up cops, he's like stealing stuff. He goes, like, there's one point where he goes to a store and he like breaks in and steals a bunch of guns. Yeah, they really shouldn't have had.

SPEAKER_02 12:53

Right. But regardless. Well, let's start with the I I love the plane scene. I mean, I love a lot of this movie. This movie's great. This is like one of my first introductions to Arnold. I was just like, yeah, blowing stuff up, big guy. And uh he's on the plane, and the guy's like, you know, he's like, no, where I'm gonna nail your mouth shut. And I was like, Oh, can I have a pillow and a blanket? And the lady's like, oh yeah, yeah. And she like goes away. And he like bends down and just elbows the dude in the face and knocks him out, grabs his head, snaps his neck, takes his the pillow and the blanket, like puts the guy's hat, and she's like, All right, night, night. Yeah, and he's like, Don't wake up, my friend, he's dead tired. And I'm like, ah, and then him in the landing gear. That plane is like well, it's up there.

SPEAKER_00 13:41

I I did read where supposedly like they filmed him standing on it, and then when he jumps down, they actually had a car or like a truck that had the landing gear built onto it on the side. But when I want to know who dropped from the plane because there's a scene there, there's a part where he drops from and falls down into some water. That's a long fall. Yeah, that's what he felt like a couple hundred feet. He's like a freaking superhuman. It's John Matrix. Also, he sounds like Tommy Wassau at one point because he's like, They are going to kill her. And he he sat like Tommy Wissau, like no, John, I did not. I did not hurt her. So, Arnold, how's your sex? It's fantastic of Arnold. Another thing I picked up watching this before Sully goes and harasses the Cindy, the the flight attendant, you know, he's over there paying 25 cents for a phone call at the corner. I just thought that was funny looking back, you know, looking back to the past.

SPEAKER_02 14:42

How far we have come.

SPEAKER_00 14:45

And the bad part is he stole the 25 cents to make the phone call.

SPEAKER_02 14:49

Well, I mean, he didn't you know he didn't have a really chance to leave with his wallet, probably.

SPEAKER_00 14:53

He's a bad guy. Just so you make sure he everyone knows. Oh, let's see. Cindy initially assumes that Matrix is a madman, but after seeing Sully pull a gun on Matrix in the ensuing shootout, during which Sully's contact is killed, she promises to assist him in his endeavor. After a lengthy car chase, Matrix catches up with Sully and interrogates him on Jenny's whereabouts by dangling him over a cliff's face.

SPEAKER_02 15:20

I love it. I love this scene so much.

SPEAKER_00 15:22

So in this part, he goes like into the monster's my weak arm.

SPEAKER_01 15:26

Well, he goes into a mall. Arnold is having a lot of fun in that moment.

SPEAKER_00 15:30

The amount of cops in this mall. Because he's just I've been to malls. You don't see him. There's one scene where he's standing at the top of the escalator and he's just like right hooking six or seven cops at a time. Like he hits one, and then that that cop falls back and like knocks things down like five.

SPEAKER_02 15:46

It's just like, dang.

SPEAKER_00 15:47

But he like he does it like four or five times where he just turns left and right, just giving them hooks and knocking them down. And then at that point is when Cindy's like, I need to help this man.

SPEAKER_02 15:56

She she swooned immediately. She was like, That yeah. She's like, I'm gonna have that guy's kids. I mean, she's like, our genes combined, they're playing in the NFL.

SPEAKER_00 16:07

Well, then they have a uh a car chase between him and Sully, and these two, let's be honest, by the end of it, they're ratty little cars. But with no seat belt on. No seat, he full-on like head first crash stops into the back of something. Gets out just fine. Just saying.

SPEAKER_02 16:26

His muscles protected him.

SPEAKER_01 16:27

Look at my muscles so big. I got airbags right here, baby.

SPEAKER_00 16:33

Well, she was fine too, though. That's that's the weird part. But the then he grabs uh Sully and he's like holding him over the cliff. He's like, I love that. You know, I promised that you would die last. Yeah, yeah, Major, you did.

SPEAKER_02 16:46

I lied.

SPEAKER_00 16:47

He lets him go. Well, that and then uh was Cindy asks, What did you do with Sully? I let him go.

SPEAKER_02 16:57

I love it. It's so great. It's just it's so great. You can't I don't care if you think it's bad, it's great. It's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

Come on, Sully. This is my weak om.

SPEAKER_00 17:07

Let's see. After a lengthy car chase, Matrix catches up with Sully, interrogates him on Jenny's whereabouts. After dropping him over the cliff face, Sully tells Matrix that Cook understands Jenny's whereabouts, and Matrix drops him off the cliffs to death. After taking a motel key from Sully's pocket, Matrix goes to the motel where Cook, a former Greenberet and Arius' employee, is staying. The two fight until Matrix impels Cook on a table leg. He then attempts to interrogate Cook on Jenny's whereabouts, but Cook dies before he can answer. So the fight between him and Cook I love that fight. That was a pretty rough fight. That was a good fight. But it was funny because of Sydney's commentary the entire time.

SPEAKER_02 17:46

She's like spectating, like, oh my god. It's like this Green Beret's about to kick your, and John Major's just like, I eat Green Berets for breakfast. It's like, yeah. And it's like, you guys are gonna start another movie in two years. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be better.

SPEAKER_00 18:01

I was gonna say everybody. That was uh Mac from everybody he's in a movie with, like the next movie, somebody from this movie is gonna be in that movie.

SPEAKER_02 18:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:11

Oh, let's see.

SPEAKER_02 18:12

But that's it is a it's a good fight. Oh, yeah. I mean, it it's probably it's it's better than a lot of fights you see and stuff now.

SPEAKER_00 18:18

Like it is very better than the last fight of the movie.

SPEAKER_02 18:23

That's that's that's just great in its own way. That's great in a different way. But it's still, I mean, it's it's very I don't want to say primal. You know what I mean? Well, yeah, I mean it was just it's very real though.

SPEAKER_00 18:34

It wasn't like spanning up a whole bunch of space, it was just them two slugging it out.

SPEAKER_02 18:38

Slugging it out, beating you with whatever's in there, getting thrown into stuff, picking up what's right there, and fighting it out. It's it's a very good fight.

SPEAKER_00 18:46

Yeah. Let's see, we'll continue on with evidence discovered in Cook's car, Matrix and Cindy break into a nearby warehouse owned by Arius that supplies weapons for his army. That is not a warehouse, it was a store.

SPEAKER_02 18:58

It was just a store. It was like Guns R Us. The store.

SPEAKER_00 19:01

With a secret room.

SPEAKER_02 19:02

Yeah, and he that's where he's just like, all right, I'm going to need pants. I need shirt. I need vest. Ooh, I need knife.

SPEAKER_01 19:09

Oh, rocket launcher. Ooh, the Grim Reaper. It holds four as he takes it, like, puts it in his bag, like, I'm going to take this too.

SPEAKER_00 19:16

Let's see, they learn where Jenny is being held after tracing Arias' Island, San Nicholas Island base using a coastal region map.

SPEAKER_02 19:24

Matrix breaks into a cause she knows how to fly planes and like just is like doing this, but she's a stewardess.

SPEAKER_00 19:30

Well, she's like, I'm I've been going to pilot school. Okay. On this water land, like amphibious uh aircraft, you're gonna land okay. Yeah. She hadn't finished school yet.

SPEAKER_02 19:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:42

But says uh Matrix breaks into a surplus store to equip himself with military weaponry, but is arrested by police. Cindy helps him escape, and after commandeering a seaplane from a nearby Arius-controlled marina, Matrix and Cindy land the plane off the coast of Arius' island hideout. She shoots the truck with police and John in it with a rocket launcher and blows up the truck. And she's like, I learned how to do it from the directions. What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_02 20:10

I mean, they have him on them. But you blew up the truck. She just picks up a grim reaper, pulls out the back, and she's just like, all right, Reed. Oh, okay, that's pretty self-explanatory. She goes like flying when she does it.

SPEAKER_00 20:22

But the first shot goes out the back into the other store behind him, and then she turns it around. Yeah. They kill, like I said, he's the bad guy. He kills police and all sorts of stuff throughout this movie. Like people were maimed in the making of this movie. Uh and then yeah, and then they go to uh they get to the higher the island, and I like how but he had like 11 hours. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:44

And you gotta think like the dawdling at the mall, Sully, throwing him off, fighting Cook, going to get an equipment, and now you gotta fly to the island.

SPEAKER_00 20:51

Right.

SPEAKER_02 20:52

It's like doot doot do do, you know, tick-tock, tick-tock.

SPEAKER_00 20:55

Well, I like how when he gets to the island, he's wearing, you know, his commando-looking stuff.

SPEAKER_02 20:59

I will no, he he comes across on the boat. In a speedo! In a speedo, and hat and then we get like the most epic suit up for for blowing up a dictator base.

SPEAKER_00 21:11

Why did he not get dressed in the plane? Why does he get up get into a speedo?

SPEAKER_02 21:17

You can do Shut up. It was just so dumb. This is when suiting up was really cool. You know, not you know, Neil Patrick Harris going suit up and it's you know a tie in a jacket. Yeah. This was you know, body armor and knives and grenades in AK-47s.

SPEAKER_00 21:34

Let's see. Matrix. No, hang on, we're gonna talk about the suit up scene.

SPEAKER_02 21:37

Okay, okay. Because it's awesome and it's a meme. It's a gif. It is, it is. Because I we've used it in the group's I know I have multiple times. Okay. Because he comes ashore and he's got his Seiko, which is called the Arnie in uh honor of Arnold, because he wears it in like three movies. Yeah. Like this gigantic Seiko remote. Wrist watch with like a rubber strap that has hand uh you know normal traditional hands, yeah, but also has digital time at like the bottom half, like a kind of like a moon phase would. So it's cool that you know you see that, it's just like if you're a watch guy, you know, he comes on you know with like the zodiac and like pulls it a short. Yeah, he's wearing a speedo, but then you get Arnold like getting dressed, you know, the boots, you know, tie, tie, knife, shh, pants, duty belt, guns. He has a desert eagle, yeah, shh shh, you know, with a holster. Like he got all he's like, I need a holster, I need beltkeepers, I need these things, I need extra magazines, I need 50 AE as he's like grabbing all around and stuff, and he's just like locking and loading, you know, the cool vest, and then like whatever it is with like the grenades like on the string, yeah, and he like z like cinches it up to himself. And then he's got like the AK-47 with like the really weird stock, yeah. Like the PKM thing, you know, you know, attachments from Call of Duty.

SPEAKER_00 22:58

And then for some reason he has to have body paint in the middle of the day.

SPEAKER_02 23:01

Well, you never know. He's very white as he's like body painting himself across his face and his arms, and and then he like has like the gun and he like lifts up like the rocket launcher, and it's just like dun dun.

SPEAKER_00 23:12

It's just like, yeah. Right before this part, when she takes off of the plane, I did find out, like I was looking it up, that's Bill Paxton as the uh radar guy that they're talking to. Is it really? Yeah, before she before she the Cindy knows how to fly low to the ground to avoid radar before she does that. That's Bill Paxton doing the radar stuff. Is it? Yeah. I did not know that. I had to go back and look, and I was like, that is Bill Paxton.

SPEAKER_02 23:35

Is he referenced in the cast? I don't I hadn't looked. Oh, he is. Bill Paxton is intercept officer. It's Bill! Man. That guy got around. That guy got around. I love this movie. I think you I still think about this movie a lot.

SPEAKER_00 23:51

I love this film. Well, let me go on talking before I get to the other parts here, but it says Matrix instructs Cindy to contact General Kirby and then proceeds to Arius's villa, killing Arius' entire platoon.

SPEAKER_02 24:03

He F's them up.

SPEAKER_00 24:06

Let's see.

SPEAKER_02 24:07

The Jed fight?

SPEAKER_00 24:08

Well, Arius emerges and engages Matrix in a massive battle until Matrix kills Arius. It's not even a massive battle, he just shows up and gets annihilated. But not once does he shoulder or aim any of these guns. It's all hip fire. Like even when he got the shotgun, it's all hip fire. It's still awesome. It's the M60, it's all hip fire. It's still awesome. You leave Arnold alone. Like he pulls out a pistol, hip fire's the pistol. Like, come on, man.

SPEAKER_02 24:34

He is stacking bodies. Khaki clad men are getting squacked by this man at this villa at a rate beyond comprehensive. I mean, he is smoking everybody.

SPEAKER_00 24:48

I like how he like side shoots the shotgun to the people go flying back in the trampoline.

SPEAKER_02 24:54

Pure 80s action. It does not get better than this movie. But you were talking about the shed scene where the guy like walks in and like the pitchfork comes down.

SPEAKER_00 25:03

He's like, after they've lit up the thing and he was just hiding up, like, was it above in the attic area? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:09

Yeah. Because he throws like the saw blade, like cuts the dude's head, like the top of the guy's head off. Yeah. Like that whole scene is just like it's cinema. It's great. He is just blowing stuff up, using all of his guns, taking guns, throwing grenades. He picks up the M60 before, you know. I think they did that as like a to Stallone. Yeah. Because of first blood.

SPEAKER_00 25:34

Yeah, Rambo, yeah. I like how he uh Arnold gets to the courtyard and he's standing there stationary, just shooting at everyone. All these people are in like positions to fire and shoot it back at him.

SPEAKER_02 25:46

Yeah, they have cover, they have concealment.

SPEAKER_00 25:48

He never gets hit and destroys them all. Just standing out in the middle of the courtyard with an M60. That was funny.

SPEAKER_02 25:55

It's great. It's cinema.

SPEAKER_00 25:57

And then you have Bennett, who's a little bit of a freak. Like, he's like, oh, I'm gonna kill him. Like licking his knife and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 26:04

He's like getting like really I know why he got dishonorably discharged because he's a freaking weirdo. That's what's going on here. That's probably what Hayden does. But he's like licking like a pocket knife.

SPEAKER_00 26:14

He's like, Alright, let's see.

SPEAKER_02 26:17

I say that because Hayden's not here.

SPEAKER_00 26:19

Ginny escapes to the villa's basement, but is eventually recaptured by Bennett. Matrix tracks them down, and after a lengthy showdown, Matrix finally kills Bennett by impelling him with a steam pipe.

SPEAKER_02 26:29

I love their fight.

SPEAKER_00 26:30

Kirby arrives with a military detachment and asks Matrix to rejoin the unit. But Matrix declines and departs the island aboard the seaplane with Ginny and Cindy.

SPEAKER_02 26:39

So aside from like the paperwork of him rejoining and like being reinstated, and like, you know, I'm sure there's like some tests and people have to be called, you know, to get him back in, you know, major international incident. You know, God knows what. He just he just overthrew a country by himself again.

SPEAKER_00 26:57

But let's talk about the Bennett fight. Let off some steam. Let off some steam, Bennett. These two guys are both superhuman. Because neither one is hurt by what's- I like how he's like goading them. They're not hurt by heat, voltage, or just pain in general. And then he's fine as soon as he stops touching it.

SPEAKER_02 27:17

Yeah, he's exactly but like the the I think he like you're like supercharged.

SPEAKER_00 27:24

Like, this is what Street Fighter could have given. Well, you got like the furnace. He just takes the door of the furnace barehanded and rips it off and starts beating Arnold in the head with it. It's like the thing was on fire. It's it's hot. I will say, Arnold takes a beating in this fight. But that didn't make sense either because Bennett does not look like he's that good of a fighter. No, but he was wearing him out. I I do like how he was he shoots him or cuts him in the arm or something, and Arnold's like leaned up against something, and uh Bennett's like a little ace down the hallway, and he's like, hey, or he was it, Bennett, Bennett's like, hey, get out here and fight like a man. And Arnold's like, why don't you come down here and fight? He goes, uh-uh. He's like, he knew better than that. He's like, no, no. And then he goes, you know, he goes him into dropping his gun. Because he like, he's like, I was like, I'm gonna shoot you in the ball.

SPEAKER_02 28:10

He's like, you don't want to shoot me, Ben. He's like, you want to put that knife in me and twist it and watch the life leave my eyes? And he's like, Yeah, yeah. He's like the dropping the gun. He's just like, yeah, he's like, I'm gonna slice jump from your brain balls, and she like runs at him, and I'm like, Yeah. And then he came, and then he takes the pipe and impales him with it through what's behind him. Yeah. And like, you're insinuating, like, like it took out what was in the circuit, like the circumference of the pipe that wasn't plugging it.

SPEAKER_00 28:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:44

Like his guts and intestines stomach, and so steam could come out of it. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't, but it doesn't have to. That's what's great. It doesn't have to.

SPEAKER_00 28:57

But yeah, he like let off some steam. And they said they had like four or five different lines that they tried just to see which one thought was worked best because they wanted it to be like a one-liner.

SPEAKER_02 29:06

But even Arnold, he's talked about like his one-liners, and he's like, he's like, we've written them for movies, and he's like, they never land. He's like, we don't know. Yeah, he's like, I don't know what's gonna be the line. Yeah, he's like, I could do all these, he's like, I've done all these movies. He's like, There's lines I thought like that's gotta be it. It's not it. And he's like, you know, he's like, Pretor, stick around. And he's like, he's like, that was it. He's like, you know, for me for this movie, it's I lied. He lets him go. It's not let off some steam, Bennett. Because it kind of dies when he says Bennett. If he just said, like, you need to let off some steam, yeah, and he just like turned, it's just like, yeah. Arnold.

SPEAKER_00 29:46

Well, what kills me at the end of this movie is as they're walking towards the plane, the stewardess and Jenny just like embracing this big hug. It's like, you've never even met each other. What's wrong with you don't know that woman at all. And you can tell, like, she she's ready for Arnold because like her skirt's like been ripped where she's showing more leg, her blouse is open a little more.

SPEAKER_02 30:04

Oh yeah, she's like, We're gonna have some Milano kids.

SPEAKER_00 30:07

On the way back, you're flying, kid. She's got something to do with the back.

SPEAKER_02 30:11

Yeah, we'll be in the back. We gotta, you know, plain plain things.

SPEAKER_00 30:16

But yeah, this movie to me, it was it was bad, but it was like funny bad.

SPEAKER_02 30:21

So it was f it's fun. It's not funny, it's fun. It's fun bad. It was okay, it's fun 80s action. This is like like all the times like with like uh Chuck Norris tried. Yeah, the closest he ever came was I think the same year is uh Code of Silence with him and Dennis Farina.

SPEAKER_00 30:42

Oh, I don't remember that one.

SPEAKER_02 30:44

He's a Chicago cop, and it's it's that's also a good movie. We should do that one eventually when we do like Chuck Norris films because it'll be like that in like Delta Force and you know Walker, Texas Ranger. Pretty much this movie, like the general shows up, and he's like like the whole army just shows up for this, and he like they're like all storming the beaches. Like Arnold's already killed everybody there, and like and like their pets, like everyone's gone, like everyone's dead. There's nothing.

SPEAKER_00 31:10

I want to know how did they know where he was? I think it was all setup, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:14

Just to get him back, yeah. Just like you know, it's like, yeah, he's still got it.

SPEAKER_00 31:16

Like, we're gonna see it was all a test to see if he still had it and be willing to join.

SPEAKER_02 31:20

Oh, he still had it, he definitely had it. And the general's like, Did you leave any for us? And he's like, just bodies. And it's like 80s, like that commando music is going to be. And then he's just like, you know, embraces them. It's just like, you know, all right, it's like, all right, he's banging the Milano stewardess now, and he's Alyssa Milano's daughter.

SPEAKER_00 31:46

And look, as un as confounding as it is, the movie cost 10 million and it made 57 million. So still, it was a success.

SPEAKER_02 31:55

68 on Rotten Tomatoes, yeah, and 68 on the popcorn meter. I I still like this movie. Oh, there's a toy. On the Wikipedia page is a subsection for toys. Diamond Toy Makers released a line of action figures in '86 in an attempt to cash in on the success of G.I. Joe. Matrix now leads an elite special forces unit which replaced his old deceased unit from the original film called the C Team, made up of Specs, Blaster, and Chopper against the forces of fear, but it's an anagram.

SPEAKER_03 32:26

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 32:27

Consisting of Psycho, Leadhead, Stalker, and Sawbones.

SPEAKER_00 32:33

Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 32:34

Finally, there was a 16-inch John Matrix that came with a pistol, an M16, and a grenade.

SPEAKER_00 32:39

Was the movie that successful? I mean Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:42

There were sequel plans.

SPEAKER_00 32:44

Okay, well. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:47

Uh they wrote a sequel and it was planned for 1987, but Schwarzenegger declined. Uh, original script writer De Sauza had debunked a rumor that his script when that this script, when the project did not go ahead, morphed into the diehard script.

SPEAKER_00 33:04

I did read something about that.

SPEAKER_02 33:06

Uh in 2010, Fox announced a remake with David Ayer at the helm, but nothing came out of it. In 2021, a sequel named Commando Retribution was rumored, with Schwarzenegger and Shawn both returning. So it's just been rumors and nothing's really happened. Six out of ten on average from 38 critics. The ultimate 80s Schwarzenegger movie, replete with a threadbare plot, outsized action, and endless one-liners. Uh where's the Siskel? Where's Ebert? Where are you, Ebert? I know you wrote about it. Well, Gene Siskel, Siskel and Ebert of the Chicago Tribune gave the film two out of four stars, writing Schwarzenegger plays his action scenes both with vengeance and a comic book laugh, but the mix never gels. The concluding battle scenes are wimpy by comparison with the action in Rambo. All we see is a half dozen barracks blown up, shot from four different angles. Wow, look at all that splintered wood. He's he's not wrong. He's not wrong.

SPEAKER_00 34:12

Well, I I did my movie a little bit quicker. Granted, there was only three paragraphs of plot to read. But uh I had I had a little Arnold quick or Arnold quote quickfire for you.

SPEAKER_02 34:23

Hang on, I wanted to read this real fast before you do it. Because I just saw in an interview in 1985, Schwarzenegger was interviewed by Gene C's uh Gene Siskel about the role in Commando. During the interview, Siskel played a clip from the movie showing scenes where Matrix chased Scully through the mall. In one of the scenes, Matrix picks up an entire phone booth with Sully in it and flipped it over. Siskel proceeded to ask how much the telephone booth weighed, to which Schwarzenegger responded 270 pounds, and subsequently answered that the stuntman in the booth weighed 130. When asked if he could lift 400 pounds, Schwarzenegger responded, Yeah, yeah, sure. I mean, God, I've lifted my whole life, so it's no problem. Okay, like they just gorilled him about it. It's like, you know, how much does that phone booth weigh? He's like 270 pounds. Like he immediately knew it's like the guy was like 130. And he's just like, it's like 400 pounds. And it's like you could, he's like, and like Arnold's just probably just looking at him, just like sitting there hulked out, just like, like, do you know my resume? Like, yeah, I can lift it. I did. That's why it's in the movie. It's what I do. I lift heavy things. Duh.

SPEAKER_00 35:31

Anyways, I I have an Arnold quote quickfire.

SPEAKER_02 35:34

Ooh.

SPEAKER_00 35:35

25 quotes.

SPEAKER_02 35:36

Okay. Do I have to guess the movie?

SPEAKER_00 35:37

Yes. Ooh. You gotta guess the movie.

SPEAKER_02 35:39

All right.

SPEAKER_00 35:39

Some of them are easy, some of them are a little bit a little more difficult.

SPEAKER_02 35:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 35:43

And some of these he says in other movies, but we're trying to go with the first movie. Like the where the quote originated from.

SPEAKER_02 35:49

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 35:49

So the first one, I'll be back.

SPEAKER_02 35:51

Alright, the Terminator.

SPEAKER_00 35:53

Two, consider that a divorce.

SPEAKER_02 35:55

Ooh. Ah, total recall. Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 35:59

Number three, if it bleeds, we can kill it.

SPEAKER_02 36:02

Predator.

SPEAKER_00 36:03

Uh number four, I still love Easter baby.

SPEAKER_02 36:06

T two.

SPEAKER_00 36:07

Number five, get to the chopper.

SPEAKER_02 36:09

Ah, Predator.

SPEAKER_00 36:10

Number six, I let him go.

SPEAKER_02 36:12

Commander.

SPEAKER_00 36:15

Number seven, he had to split.

SPEAKER_02 36:18

Ah, he had to split. That implies he cut somebody in half.

SPEAKER_00 36:22

He did with some kind of chainsaw thing. You know? I don't know. It's a movie we haven't talked about, but we haven't gotten to it yet either. Series of We're gonna review it? I think it's one of his bigger movies. They recently made a remake of it.

SPEAKER_02 36:43

Is it coming in the barbarian?

SPEAKER_00 36:45

No. With Glenn Powell. As the the big guy.

SPEAKER_02 36:50

Oh, running man? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:51

Oh, okay. Alright. Number eight. What a hothead. Also the running man. Okay. Number nine. You've been erased.

SPEAKER_02 37:02

Eraser.

SPEAKER_00 37:04

Number ten. I lied. No. Number eleven. Stick on around.

SPEAKER_02 37:10

Predator.

SPEAKER_00 37:11

Number twelve. Put that cookie down! Now where was that from?

SPEAKER_02 37:17

Um jingle all the way.

SPEAKER_00 37:21

Number thirteen's a long quote. What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women. Yeah. Number fourteen, come with me if you want to live.

SPEAKER_02 37:34

That's T2.

SPEAKER_00 37:35

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 37:37

Even though Kaury says it in T1.

SPEAKER_00 37:39

Number 15, I eat green berets for breakfast, and right now I'm very hungry.

SPEAKER_02 37:43

Commander.

SPEAKER_00 37:44

Number 16. You're fired.

SPEAKER_02 37:49

True lies? Yeah. That's when he launches him with a missile. Yeah. That's great.

SPEAKER_00 37:55

Number 17, it's not a toolba. Kindergarten cop. Number 18. Rubber baby buggy bumper. Kindergarten cop? No. I know. He does have a kid with him in this movie.

SPEAKER_02 38:09

Collateral damage?

SPEAKER_00 38:11

No.

SPEAKER_02 38:13

Is it T2?

SPEAKER_00 38:14

No.

SPEAKER_02 38:16

I don't know. What is it?

SPEAKER_00 38:17

The last action hero.

SPEAKER_02 38:21

I the only line I remember from Last Action Hero is Charles Dan. Yeah. Going, I just shot somebody and I did it on purpose. And you just hear some guy yell, hey shut up!

SPEAKER_00 38:33

Number 19. Cocaine. Red Heat. Yep. See, number 20. I did nothing. The pavement was his enemy.

SPEAKER_02 38:45

The pavement was his enemy. Uh I don't know. Twins. That's twins?

SPEAKER_00 38:51

Yeah. He's talking to Danny Devito, like he beat up somebody and he fell down. He's telling Danny Devito, like, I I've enjoyed it and he fell. Let's see. Number 21. I'm afraid that my condition has left me cold to your pleas of mercy. No. More recent.

SPEAKER_02 39:10

Ah, more than one.

SPEAKER_00 39:11

Well, late 90s.

SPEAKER_02 39:13

Uh collateral damage? I think that was like the early 2000s. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 39:19

He emphasizes cold to your pleas of mercy. Oh. Batman. Yeah, Batman and Robin. Number 22. Alright, everyone. Chill.

SPEAKER_02 39:32

Batman. He was great as Mr. Freeze.

SPEAKER_00 39:35

Number 23.

SPEAKER_02 39:36

Dylan, you son of a and then the most manly handshake that's ever happened ever. Um A Predator. Have you seen the edit meme of uh with Elliot Page? Or Elliot Page doing it. And it's like this twig art. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:56

I saw the I saw the uh the edit where it was uh doing the the like the the mow down the uh the uh jungle scene and she's standing there next to all the rest of them. That was pretty funny. It's like a stick figure. So you number 24, it's turbo time. Oh, well, jingle all the way.

SPEAKER_01 40:13

It's turbo time.

SPEAKER_00 40:15

Number 25, no sequel for you.

SPEAKER_02 40:18

Last action hero?

SPEAKER_00 40:19

Yeah. I just want to run through those. Uh you know, I didn't know when Hayden will be back, so I didn't want to make it trivia. I figured you would know most of them.

SPEAKER_02 40:28

Yeah. If it bleeds, we can kill it.

SPEAKER_00 40:31

While we've got a little extra time before the end of the episode, I do have a lot of news and rumors. I didn't know if you had any that you had written down, wanted to go over. We can discuss the uh the ending to the boys.

SPEAKER_02 40:41

Yeah, I wanted to talk about the boys. Spoiler alert, Hayden. Spoilers. Spoilers!

SPEAKER_00 40:46

If you if you haven't seen it yet and you like the show, go watch.

SPEAKER_02 40:50

I wasn't thrilled.

SPEAKER_00 40:51

I wasn't either.

SPEAKER_02 40:53

I'm a little disappointed in the last season. Well, I like I kind of mentioned to you, like once we hit like I hit like episode five and six, and I'm like, they're running out of time to tie all this up. And even it with the episode seven, I'm like, there's a lot I'm dying. There's a lot to unpack really quickly in an episode. I'm like, is it like a two-hour finale? Like we're getting like a movie. No.

SPEAKER_00 41:23

Well, I mean, I just feel like you know, Homelander is this big threat, and the final battle took place in a room with a bunch of superpowered individuals.

SPEAKER_02 41:31

When before like him, like laser, he's cut Kamiko in half.

SPEAKER_00 41:34

Yeah, I mean he's cut for. Well, I guess this was uh uh like a dream sequence, but then he's like cutting down a crowd with his laser vision in one you know one season. And it's just it felt very anticlimactic.

SPEAKER_02 41:46

It ended on a window.

SPEAKER_00 41:50

Well, because I thought like he was actually just gonna full-on lose it and start killing everyone.

SPEAKER_02 41:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:55

And that never happened.

SPEAKER_02 41:56

I will say I loved Oh Father's Death. Oh, yeah. That was hilarious.

SPEAKER_00 42:04

He went to Yellow and put it in his mouth.

SPEAKER_02 42:06

He put the titanium ball gag and just like blew himself up. And I was like, yeah. Um, me and Rachel, Rachel still laughs at Ashley. Um, she like runs. Yeah. And she's like, she's skedaddling. She's like, that is actual skedaddling. Like with like the hands and like the whole like like gotta go. It's almost like she's trying not to slide as she I know. She's like, that's how you have to run in six inch. Um that whole bit was hilarious. Um, I hated that terror died. Terror, terror, terror. Terror. The dog. Oh, yeah. The bulldog, terror.

SPEAKER_00 42:41

Well, I thought it was I thought it was dumb that Butcher died.

SPEAKER_02 42:44

Yeah, like I didn't I like I don't they crammed a villain arc.

SPEAKER_00 42:48

Because he was superpowered too, right?

SPEAKER_02 42:50

No, he he lost his too. But him and Ryan and Homelander all lost theirs when Camigo.

SPEAKER_00 42:56

See, I did I didn't think Butcher and Ryan lost theirs.

SPEAKER_02 42:58

Okay, and then because they had like Sister Sage, she gets blasted.

SPEAKER_00 43:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:02

And then she becomes an idiot. And then is happy. And she's like, Woo! She's like, Finally, and she's like, I did, you know, the stuff. Yeah. But she's just like an idiot now. It's just like it's all gone. She's like, I used to be able to requote this from memory. She's like, nothing. She's like, I'm going to Harry Potter World. She's like, wands up. She like just leaves, and I'm like, that's it. Like that. And then even with uh the fight with the deep.

SPEAKER_00 43:31

Well, like what I'm but he's such an idiot. Well, what I thought was stupid is like he got knocked into the water.

SPEAKER_02 43:38

But water is supposed to make him stronger.

SPEAKER_00 43:39

Well, that and he comes up like gasping for air. You have gills, you breathe underwater, man.

SPEAKER_02 43:44

I know. It's like they forgot. And then like, all like the like because in my head, I'm like, how like why did the fish think it was him?

SPEAKER_00 43:51

Well, that and he's supposed to have super speed in the water. So because like like Aquaman, he he can outswim a fish.

SPEAKER_02 43:58

Faster in the water, he can outswim a fish. He's stronger near water.

SPEAKER_00 44:03

And like you said, I don't understand why the fish thought it was him because the other guy told him like he went and blew up some kind of oil pipeline or something like that. And the deep was in there trying to fix it. I don't understand why the fish think it was him.

unknown 44:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:17

I mean, I might have missed something.

SPEAKER_02 44:18

And they got Samuel Jackson to be the hammerhead shark and talk smack to him, which I thought was a great. His death, I wanted more out of it, but I think it was it was still funny, like a giant like octopus like shoved its tentacle like up its butt, up his butt, and like out of his mouth.

SPEAKER_00 44:37

And then like I understand to me, it was good that Frenchie died to push Kimiko to you know continue on, but I felt like it was kind of wasted because it was all so quick. It all happened like right there at the end. Like I feel like Frenchie should have died like either mid or beginning of this season that pushed Kimiko to be more of a instead of like the episode before. Right.

SPEAKER_02 45:01

So it was kind of meh about that. The Homelander fight. I sort of it's hilarious watching it when he gets depowered. Yeah. And he does like the He goes to jump and he's just like a kid thinking he can fly.

SPEAKER_00 45:13

He's like, Yeah, that was funny.

SPEAKER_02 45:15

And then like Homelanders or uh Billy Butcher starts beating the snot out of him and he just lay there and he's like with the hand he's like Yeah he's like I'll eat you boop yeah I just yeah because like Yui I don't know I just thought it was bad like Yui's kills butcher it's like wow you couldn't have stopped him without killing him I I just don't know because when he he left I thought he went to go kill Soldier Boy Yeah because Soldier Boy's still frozen right which at at the seven tower in Homelander's room, yeah. So I was assuming he went to just go take out Soldier Boy and be done with it. Right. And he's like, I'm gonna kill every suit when they show up at work at 7 a.m.

SPEAKER_00 46:06

I don't know. I felt like I was like, meh, it's alright.

SPEAKER_02 46:10

It wasn't great.

unknown 46:11

No.

SPEAKER_00 46:12

I I felt like the other seasons, even though there's like this season didn't even have like a shock moment to me compared to some of the other ones. Like normally there's like a one episode where you're like shocked at what happens like you're like, oh my god. Like the one there's one where the little guy's inside the other guy.

SPEAKER_02 46:25

Oh, and he sneezes in.

SPEAKER_00 46:26

You're like, oh my god. There to me, it didn't even feel like there was one of those the seasons. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 46:31

No.

SPEAKER_00 46:31

I did I did like the episode where I think Sam and uh Sam and Cast DL shows up as new characters.

SPEAKER_02 46:38

Yeah, that was fun.

SPEAKER_00 46:39

I was like, I liked when Jerry Paddle kept doing super speed and running into like Seth Rogan and G's and all the taking all the other actors out.

SPEAKER_02 46:48

That was funny, and then he slips like on all the baby oil and then like they like just totally like rift like you know, making fun of P. Diddy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:56

But even that I was like, Yeah, yeah. I was kind of hoping they would have like a couple episodes.

SPEAKER_02 47:02

They just I was hoping they have like a full episode. Yeah, they were just doing it for a couple of minutes. But even like uh Soldier Boy giving Homelander the compound V. Yeah, like the V1 formula is what Claire would have wanted.

SPEAKER_00 47:15

But see, to me, that doesn't seem like why did that get shoehorned in immediately?

SPEAKER_02 47:19

It's like you hate him. Yeah. It's like why in God's name would you make him an immortal?

SPEAKER_00 47:23

Right. I mean, because you already would just want to be away from him. Why would you make him immortal where he could follow you forever?

SPEAKER_02 47:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:30

It's yeah. There's a lot of confusing choices, I feel like.

SPEAKER_02 47:37

Just bizarre. Um it there's stuff I I don't even know if I liked it.

SPEAKER_00 47:44

Well, because like I I don't understand.

SPEAKER_02 47:46

And then even at the end, where I like how they brought back uh Bobby Singer as the president again. And he's like, idiots. That's all I could hear him saying. And he calls Huey, and he's just like, you know, uh, like they're basically restarting the boys, right? And he wants him to lead it. And he's like, No, I'm good. And he starts like this like tech store, and it's just like that's not gonna do good. No, it's like it's a horrible business model, and then they have like some sort of like you like Batcave kind of moment. Yeah, it's having a Batcave thing, and like they send and he sends Starlight, and she's pregnant, yeah. And he calls the kid Robin, and I'm like, How would you feel if I named our kid after her next girlfriend? And my wife just looked at me and she went, Are you out of your damn mind? She's like, No, she's like, I don't care if she died, no.

SPEAKER_00 48:37

Yeah, I mean, I just like was it this beginning of this season? A Train died, right?

SPEAKER_02 48:44

Yeah, that's what I liked A-Train's arc. I did too. I think they did that really good.

SPEAKER_00 48:50

He didn't just switch, he actually like throughout seasons.

SPEAKER_02 48:52

The deep had no arc. No, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot, dead idiot.

SPEAKER_00 48:59

He doubled down on idiot.

SPEAKER_02 49:01

Doubled down on being a moron.

SPEAKER_00 49:04

Yeah. And I mean, you you had the uh the kids, the Gen V kids that were like from the other show on this one, and they're just like, hello. Yeah, they didn't do anything. This one girl could control the blood inside of a person. She could control Homelander's blood inside of him. Like she could have killed him. Just blow him up from the inside. But they didn't use her.

SPEAKER_02 49:26

Like uh, what's it like Newman?

SPEAKER_00 49:28

Yeah. So I there's a lot of uh to me, there's a lot of plot holes for this.

SPEAKER_02 49:35

It's like they rushed to come up with an idea.

SPEAKER_00 49:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:38

For an ending. And like you had like, I mean, they couldn't do the Black Noir as Homelander. Right. Clone.

SPEAKER_00 49:44

Yeah, because they'd already revealed all that.

SPEAKER_02 49:46

Well, Homelander killed the first Black Noir.

SPEAKER_00 49:49

Yeah. And then they revealed the second one's face, so you already knew.

SPEAKER_02 49:52

Yeah. And even with that one. See, like, at first I'm like, that guy can fly, has all stuff, and like he gets choked out with cords. Yeah. It's like those were strong enough to hold up to the deep, like trying to strangle them, and they didn't just snap.

SPEAKER_00 50:06

Right. Well, I mean, there's a there was a guy from the other show that was like superpowered, but he was crazy that like could probably rival Homelander, and they didn't even use him. Because there was a theory before we saw uh Noir's face that he was gonna be the guy in the suit because he was crazy and he saw puppets and somewhere the other uh noir saw cartoon characters, but they didn't use that either. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 50:33

It's just kind of meh. I wasn't I wasn't thrilled with it.

SPEAKER_00 50:40

Let's see. Moving on from that, I'll kind of go over there's a couple of things here. Um you got House of the Dragon coming out on June 21st for season three.

SPEAKER_02 50:50

I hope it's better than season two.

SPEAKER_00 50:52

Me too.

SPEAKER_02 50:53

Because season two was just the Damon tripping balls at Heron Hall show. Whatever that was. And then uh what uh one of Rainey's kids gets eaten by a dragon.

SPEAKER_00 51:05

Then you got uh Vault Rising 19, like it's gonna be the 1950s Soldier Boy, which that they showed a trailer for that. Basically, it's him and his team or whatever, and him becoming a payback, a uh a douche. Pretty much. He well, it's how he became a super soldier and all that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_02 51:21

I like how they were just like, you know, you had to be strapped down to the table and you peed yourself.

SPEAKER_00 51:26

Yeah. Oh who wouldn't? Of course a grown man peased himself. Crazy. Um let's see, you're gonna have uh some gaming uh news. You got uh Fate of the Old Republic. It's gonna be made by the Mass Effect creators. Yes, it's gonna be like a sequel to Nights of the Old Republic, and that's actually getting a remake into modern like graphics and gaming uh controls and stuff as well.

SPEAKER_02 51:55

About time.

SPEAKER_00 51:56

You got a Star Wars Jedi 3, which is based off the Kalkestus character still.

SPEAKER_02 52:01

Okay, cool. Those are good games.

SPEAKER_00 52:03

Uh Star Wars Galactic Racer, which is gonna be like pod racing.

SPEAKER_01 52:06

No, this is pod racing.

SPEAKER_00 52:08

But they they seem even though it's you know it's pod racing, they seem to kind of focus on more like a need for speed kind of story to it. That's pretty cool. So it's it's a more serious kind of thing.

SPEAKER_02 52:16

I feel like there's been so many cool Star Wars ideas for games, and some that were like in production and then were just like immediately scrapped that we never got like 1313.

SPEAKER_00 52:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:26

That we all wanted. There was supposed to be Nights of the Republic 3 years ago, they scrapped that. Yeah. Then it was supposed to be a Rogue Squadron 2, they scrapped that. It's like stuff we all wanted and we never got.

SPEAKER_00 52:39

Uh let's see. There's rumors of pretty pretty substantial rumors like coming out of Rocksteady uh studios that they're gonna make another Batman Arkham game, and it's gonna be Batman Arkham Beyond, and it'll be Terry McGuinness. Well, originally they had planned on it being Damien in the future, and now supposedly they've gone back to the idea of it being Terry McGinnis.

SPEAKER_02 52:59

It should be Terry.

SPEAKER_00 52:59

Yeah, I agree, but it's because of the popularity of the new Lego Batman that just came out, how much people have been craving like your pre-orders and stuff. They're like, well, we're gonna go ahead and start working towards the Batman Arkham Beyond, which would be pretty cool. Because uh even in the comics, Batman Beyond has gotten a lot of uh more recognition here recently. Well, they they went back to McGinnis, but they kind of changed his suit to where instead of the the wings that pop out, he he went back to where he wears like it's still a futuristic suit, but he's got like a actual cape and stuff now because he's become more like Batman as he's gotten older. Uh we got the I was telling you about Lord of the Rings RPG by the Kingdom Deliverance developers. It's gonna be just a big open world where you know you go through and do different stuff.

SPEAKER_02 53:46

No, I'm gonna want to play it. Depending on how they do it.

SPEAKER_00 53:49

Uh let's see, let me pull up. There was a post that I saw that I wanted to uh mention about it. It was like, this is what we want for the game.

SPEAKER_02 53:57

If I didn't have kids and was married and wasn't married, I would be playing the crap out of Kingdom Come Deliverance 2.

SPEAKER_00 54:05

It's like it's oh, it's being made by Warhorse. Uh let's see. 25 dream come true things we want to experience in Lord of the Rings. One, let's see, befriend and ride an ant. Number two, ride a fell beast later in the game.

SPEAKER_02 54:23

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 54:24

Uh three, soar on the back of an eagle.

SPEAKER_02 54:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:28

Number four, share some of this is kind of blurry. Share a pint at the prancing pony. Yes. I want to do that now. Number five, meet and ride Shadowfax.

SPEAKER_02 54:38

Definitely.

SPEAKER_00 54:39

Six, visit Riv Rivendell and behold the mural of Sauron. Number seven, stand in Elrond's Canyon and watch the moonlight spill over the waters.

SPEAKER_02 54:49

I would like to do that too.

SPEAKER_00 54:51

Number eight, meet Elrond and many familiar faces from the film. Number nine, assemble your own fellowship and forge unbreakable bonds.

SPEAKER_02 54:59

Definitely.

SPEAKER_00 55:00

Ten, build your own home anywhere in Middle Earth.

SPEAKER_02 55:02

I would.

SPEAKER_00 55:03

Number eleven, experience a full day and night cycle.

SPEAKER_02 55:06

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 55:07

See 12, it says hunt, fish, and live off the wilds as a true ranger.

SPEAKER_02 55:11

Definitely.

SPEAKER_00 55:13

13. Explore a seamless open Middle Earth from Shire to Mordor. Which that's kind of what they've already said. Uh see. 14. Walk every path, not on roads, but in true freedom. See, shape your story and legacy with meaningful choices, master weapons, magic, and skills and deep RPG. Uh seventeen, discover ancient ruins and forgotten treasures. 18. Take part in epic battles that shape the fate. 19. Stealth through enemy camps or charge in as a warrior. I'm trying to read. Charge in as a warrior. Number 12. Sell the Enduin in a boat and visit the great river towns. Some of the stuff's kind of blurry to read. Experience the dynamic seasons. Farm, cook, and craft to survive the journey. Potatoes. Boil them, mash them, stick them in a stew. Meet creatures great and small, some friendly, most not. Number 25, uncover the secrets of forgotten times and lost kingdoms. And then number 25 says, live your life in Middle Earth and leave your mark on its history. Yes. But I mean it would be cool to be able to like venture into the minds of Moria on top of everything else. I did I was telling you earlier that they did mention that when they showed the map that they plan on the ship or the ship, the uh game being of, it does extend a little further east than what's on the original map because they wanted to show where like the men from the east came from and their their areas and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 56:47

Rune.

SPEAKER_00 56:49

Oh, another thing I had on here for moving on to the next thing. Did you see where they have the death of destiny?

SPEAKER_02 56:56

Yeah, that that's it. They're like, there's nothing else. Like we're not doing anything.

SPEAKER_00 56:59

Yeah, the beginning of June was like the last thing they're gonna do, and that's it. So then there's no plans for Destiny 3, and they laid off a bunch of bungee personnel.

SPEAKER_02 57:10

That's sad. Destiny had a great run, though.

SPEAKER_00 57:13

It did. I mean, it was what, 10 or 12 years?

SPEAKER_02 57:15

Yeah. I mean, granted, they didn't deliver off the rip right what they showed. And that was kind of like a little bit of stank face at that. But uh I had a lot of fun playing Destiny, Destiny 1 and 2.

SPEAKER_00 57:32

Yeah. See, I love the story, it's just it got so repetitive after you completed that part of the story.

SPEAKER_02 57:37

Yeah, and then doing the raids or whatever, it was just like, all right, we gotta kill this guy again. Oh, we gotta blow up the minotaurs. Uh here we go.

SPEAKER_00 57:45

And the raids were fun, but it was hard to find six people that had eight hours they could devote to go through this raid.

SPEAKER_02 57:51

Yeah, because well, now all of us are married with kids, and yeah, we don't have we don't have eight hours. Is there a dad edition where you you could do it in half an hour?

SPEAKER_00 58:02

Um they also have Aliens Fire Team 2, which is coming out, where they've improved the graphics, and they said they they didn't I hope they did and improved a lot because we played Alien Fire Team 1 and we got bored really quickly. Well, they said that a lot of people loved playing it. He said, but it got real repetitive and easy as well. But they've they said the team, like the developers really listened to the community and they've upgraded it to where it's four players now, and they made the AI smarter. So they don't we don't have four people. It's just me, you, and Aiden. But now barely. We I can't remember last time we all played a game together.

SPEAKER_01 58:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 58:41

But uh they said there you can actually customize your characters now, it's four players, and then they actually made the aliens smarter so they won't just charge in straight at you, they'll try and sneak up on you as well.

SPEAKER_02 58:51

Yeah, crafty aliens.

SPEAKER_00 58:53

It's still Fire Team, but there's a little creepier element to it now.

SPEAKER_02 58:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 58:58

So but that's pretty much all the news and stuff I had. I do want to talk about the Punisher, One Last Kill, Daredevil Born Again Season 2, and then the controversy around the movie The Odyssey, but that'll take more than uh 50 seconds.

SPEAKER_02 59:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:13

So I can we should.

SPEAKER_02 59:14

We just have to come back for the next episode, won't you?

SPEAKER_00 59:18

Uh look at the way we played that.

SPEAKER_02 59:20

Uh, it's like there's a plan of this show. There's not. Yeah, no. There's not. We just wing it every single day.

SPEAKER_00 59:25

Yeah, we just kind of ran out of time. But that's all I got for this episode. What do you got? Anything else? No, that's all I got. What's what movies should be on the next? Hayden used to do barbari uh Conan and the Barbarian.

SPEAKER_02 59:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:38

You'll have to review that?

SPEAKER_02 59:38

I thought you were doing both.

SPEAKER_00 59:40

Well, I was I've already watched them, but Hayden said he was gonna do those.

SPEAKER_02 59:43

Uh I know. So that's why I did Commando. T2.

SPEAKER_00 59:47

I see what's the next two movies that we have? In the order here.

SPEAKER_02 59:54

I don't know. We should have written these down.

SPEAKER_00 59:55

Write that down.

SPEAKER_02 59:57

Write that down. We didn't write any of it down.

SPEAKER_00 59:59

Let's see. Let me look up Arnold real quick. Arnold. So many movies. Alright, so we've done Predator already before.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:19

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:20

We'll have Red Heat. Is he doing Red Heat? Uh well there's The Running Man, Red Heat, Twins, Total Recall, and Kindergarten Cop.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:30

Oh, I would love to do Kindergarten Cop.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:32

I I kind of want to do twins because I don't think I've ever seen the whole movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:36

I haven't seen the whole movie.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:38

So he still needs to do uh Is he doing Red Heat? I don't know. But he's gotta do I think he's doing Red Heat. He's gotta do Conan the Barbarian first.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:47

Um then we do kindergarten cop and twins, and I say we do a trivia, and if you want, I'll host trivia, and then whoever wins gets to do Terminator 2.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:56

Yeah, well uh why were you told Haney could do T2? I don't care. Because he was mad I got to do T1.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:01

I don't care, he's not here today. He's probably listening to this going like, but Tom said I can do it. Well, if you win, you can determine whether he can do it or not. Okay, fine. But um, yeah, that's what we got coming for us. Terminator 2, kindergarten cop, maybe total recall, twins.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:17

We should do total recall. That's a big Arnold movie. Yeah. And you know, 1990 Sharon Stone.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:23

I think we could skip red heat. We'll just do twins, total recall, and kindergarten cop on the next one.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:27

Cocaine.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:28

Yeah, I think we'll be okay. We'll just we'll we'll tell uh Hayden he can do Total Recall and Bar uh Codan the Barbarian. Alright, well.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:37

Fine.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:37

That's all I got.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:38

That's all I got. That's all you got.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:41

Bah. I lied.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:45

Just stop recording. I don't want to talk about it. I gotta go home and edit one of these boys.